topic Wall position classifier in Project data & BIM

Wall position classifier

Anonymous — Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:20:13 GMT

Hi. I am currently preparing contract documentation and I am scheduling which of my walls are External walls and which are Internal walls. This is coming into the schedule through the Wall category 'Position' classification. There are three options pre-set there: Exterior, Interior and Undefined. I have two questions.
Firstly, can I add a fourth option to this list for Fittings (bulkheads, splashbacks, partitions etc - other instances where I have used the Wall tool but it is not really an Internal wall)?
Secondly, can I change the words 'Exterior' and 'Interior' to 'External and Internal'? Interestingly the ifc code for Position is IsExternal , so I'm hoping there might be somewhere I can change this classifier. Any thoughts?
Thanks.

Re: Wall position classifier

Anonymous — Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:11:33 GMT

I will do custom properties group, with properties for what I want to schedule and applied to the walls, that way I can classify my walls any way I want.

Example,
Property Group = My Wall Classes
Properties:
Location: External, Internal, Parapet, Foundation, Garden, Fence.

This is just an example, then you can Schedule the walls and filter them by these properties.

Re: Wall position classifier

Anonymous — Thu, 28 Sep 2017 00:09:26 GMT

Thanks arqrivas. That might be a work-around, if the original position classifier can't be changed. (Which I need to have as I am transferring the model to the rest of the team who are on Revit.) So I would have to enter that information in for each wall twice.

How do you do a Custom Properties group?

Thanks

Re: Wall position classifier

Laszlo Nagy — Sat, 30 Sep 2017 19:31:53 GMT

You would probably want to watch this playlist on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_5wknEYVsA&list=PLnXY6vLUwlWWXsVJ3fRGNxuKLoHPkpx1I

It talks about Element Properties that were introduced in ARCHICAD 20. You will find the answers to your specific question in clip 3 and 4.

Re: Wall position classifier

Anonymous — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 00:26:37 GMT

Thanks Laszlo, that is helpful. However, any idea why my Property Manager is blank when I open it? There are no 'properties' available. Do I have to set this up manually?

Thanks

Re: Wall position classifier

runxel — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 07:23:30 GMT

DaniMa wrote:
Thanks Laszlo, that is helpful. However, any idea why my Property Manager is blank when I open it? There are no 'properties' available. Do I have to set this up manually?

This is most likely the result of migrating your old v19 template.
Open the template which came with Archicad (either made by GS or the reseller), then export the settings in the property manager and import it into your template.

Re: Wall position classifier

Anonymous — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 08:02:03 GMT

Thanks Runxel

That fixed my Property Manager issue. (BTW Migrating my v19 template? I wish. My template is a poor old v16 one...)

But, I still cannot change this classification, I believe because it is an Archicad standard 'Category' for all elements, not a Property. So perhaps it just can't be done?

Thanks all.

Re: Wall position classifier

runxel — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 11:55:31 GMT

DaniMa wrote:
That fixed my Property Manager issue. (BTW Migrating my v19 template? I wish. My template is a poor old v16 one...)

But, I still cannot change this classification, I believe because it is an Archicad standard 'Category' for all elements, not a Property. So perhaps it just can't be done?

You're welcome.
4 versions! That's quite a difference

Yes, maybe the other posters were not clear enough here: It is hardcoded and can not be changed. That is why you could make a property just for that.
Properties can be scheduled (interactively!) – just use the new made property; the video shows how to.

Re: Wall position classifier

Anonymous — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 00:47:30 GMT

Thanks for clearing that up Runxel, I appreciate it. I know how to make unique Properties, as I do that for other items, so really just wanted to know if this wording could be changed.

Now I know it can't I can work around it. Thank you for answering my question!

Now, to add 'updating my templates' to my to-do list also!

Re: Wall position classifier

JaseBee — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 04:15:12 GMT

Hi Guys,

We're on the cusp of coming up to AC21 (currently on AC19), and I've been playing around a little with 20&21.

I've always done my walls on separate layers (internal, external, masonry, ect) and so I've never really bothered with the position classification.

What are the advantages of doing it with a property value?

The only difference I can think of would be you're unable to independently switch off or wireframe the groups of walls (through the layer manager)... or am I missing something about the properties values? Can they manipulate the walls display through graphic overrides (more than just picking the pens and fills).

Just curious.
Jase

Re: Wall position classifier

Laszlo Nagy — Sun, 15 Oct 2017 12:04:44 GMT

If I remember correctly, the Wall Position property is intended for and useful when exporting your model for a Energy Evaluation consultant. When performing Energy Evaluation, it is important to know which Walls are exterior (part of the building envelope, in contact with the outside environment), which Walls are interior (within the envelope of the building), and which Walls are undefined (not playing a role in this regard - for example, a free-standing Wall in the court or garden would be "undefined" in this regard.