topic Re: Syringe Tool in Project data & BIM

Syringe Tool

Rakela Raul — Fri, 26 May 2023 13:29:29 GMT

can i setup the syringe (alt+click) tool to grab the horizontal / vertical attributes from dimensions?? if so, thx in advance.

Re: Syringe Tool

TomWaltz — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:45:39 GMT

I would be nice, but no, since the vertical/horizontal setting is a placement method, not a parameter. As far as I know, there is no setting to change a dimension from vertical to horizontal after it is drawn.

Re: Syringe Tool

Rakela Raul — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:56:56 GMT

thanku tom

Re: Syringe Tool

Anonymous — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:36:09 GMT

It would be nice to make profiles for the syringe.

For example . Setting for each tool which methods are syringed.

So when we just adjust fonts ,font types and size, annotations in general we could load a profile syringe that would only affect fonts.

If i want to edit my doors and windows. I would have a presaved syringe profile that would not alter size direction.... but for example only frames and materials...

It would be a very flexible tool.

Your opinion?

Re: Syringe Tool

Rakela Raul — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:16:05 GMT

without mentioning any other soft, i know that tool very well and
it is very useful.

Re: Syringe Tool

Anonymous — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:16:18 GMT

make a favorite for every tool setting you want.

when you want to "inject" properties into a placed object, use the favorites pallette to set your current defaults to what you want

inject the placed item.

Does that work? Just thinking off the top of my head - haven't tried it...

Wes

Re: Syringe Tool

TomWaltz — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:28:54 GMT

Weston wrote:
make a favorite for every tool setting you want.

when you want to "inject" properties into a placed object, use the favorites pallette to set your current defaults to what you want

inject the placed item.

Does that work? Just thinking off the top of my head - haven't tried it...

Wes

I think his idea was only to edit some parameters while leabing others alone. Favorites, like the syringe, apply to all parameters.

Re: Syringe Tool

Link — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:47:36 GMT

Favorites, like the syringe, apply to all parameters.

Actually we can exclude some parameters from our favorites through the Favorite Preferences. Wish we could do the same for transferring with the eyedropper/syringe. Even better would be profiles, as mentioned by oreopoulos.

FWIW transferring attributes with the eyedropper/syringe never remembers the geometry of any element. Nor does it remember the ID, SEO's, and other non-common parameters (like the wrapped/non-wrapped checkbox state of text or the insertion point of objects). Kind of a grey area if you ask me!

In Rakela's case, if it helps, you may simply rotate the dimension chain!

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Syringe Tool

TomWaltz — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:19:18 GMT

Link wrote:
Favorites, like the syringe, apply to all parameters.
Actually we can exclude some parameters from our favorites through the Favorite Preferences. Wish we could do the same for transferring with the eyedropper/syringe. Even better would be profiles, as mentioned by oreopoulos.

that is kind of true. You can only include/exclude common tool parameters, like width or height, not the internal object parameters like window sill settings or door frame settings.

Re: Syringe Tool

Rakela Raul — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:52:10 GMT

thx link,
im always counting how many moves it takes to perform 1 task:
in the dimensioning case u either hit the keybd or select the tool and most of the times u need to select horiz or vert and then u can start dimens'g....but if the syringe tool would take also the horiz or vert u can start dimens'g rt away..(previous syringing of existing dim)
or u can use it to do selective transfer as oreopules put it below

Re: Syringe Tool

Gerald Hoffman — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 22:02:06 GMT

Rakela wrote:

in the dimensioning case u either hit the keybd or select the tool and most of the times u need to select horiz or vert and then u can start dimens'g....

Rakela,
I have mentioned this before on ArchiTALK but things get old and then forgotten. This syringe transfer for horiz. or vertical has been a wish for as long as I have been using AC ( V4.55), and it does not seem to be a priority of GS. In my practice I most often dimension to walls or at least walls are part of a string. If you set the dimension to Angled and then click on the first wall to start the string the direction will automatically be set to be perpendicular to this wall. You may then click on other wall edges, lines, slabs or whatever and then finish your string in the normal fashion.

This has saved me much screaming and gnashing of teeth.

Re: Syringe Tool

Link — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 22:15:12 GMT

Yep - Gerald's right, always use the angled method. The first two nodes in the dimension string set the reference angle!

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Syringe Tool

Rakela Raul — Fri, 16 Sep 2005 03:07:04 GMT

now that have checked this super tip for me, i feel like changing the subject to 'i dont know how to use the dimens'g tool'....this really takes away the syringe tool problem i had....thanks alot.....onother thing is that the syringe tool has potential

Re: Syringe Tool

Anonymous — Fri, 16 Sep 2005 04:14:50 GMT

This would be even more helpful if dimensions recognised points perpendicular to first point.

Re: Syringe Tool

Djordje — Fri, 16 Sep 2005 07:54:10 GMT

Also:

Always remember that you can rotate dimensions after placing, whatever their original setting is.

Re: Syringe Tool

TomWaltz — Fri, 16 Sep 2005 15:27:24 GMT

Djordje wrote:
Also:

Always remember that you can rotate dimensions after placing, whatever their original setting is.

When I try that with associative dimensions, they disappear. Is that only with Static dimensions?

Re: Syringe Tool

Link — Fri, 16 Sep 2005 15:39:06 GMT

When I try that with associative dimensions, they disappear. Is that only with Static dimensions?

Nope.

I believe it only works on dimensions that are placed by clicking on individual nodes, not on edges. So it does depend on the method ytou used to place them - I guess the logic is why would you need to rotate dims that we placed the correct way the first time, as the are when placed by clicking on wall edges, thus setting their reference vector correctly.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Syringe Tool

TomWaltz — Fri, 16 Sep 2005 19:06:44 GMT

Link wrote:
When I try that with associative dimensions, they disappear. Is that only with Static dimensions?
Nope.

I believe it only works on dimensions that are placed by clicking on individual nodes, not on edges. So it does depend on the method ytou used to place them - I guess the logic is why would you need to rotate dims that we placed the correct way the first time, as the are when placed by clicking on wall edges, thus setting their reference vector correctly.

Cheers,
Link.

ah, you got it Link.

I was trying it on walls by clicking on their edges! How dare I try to be efficient! 😉