topic Re: Addng plaster for walls in Project data & BIM

Addng plaster for walls

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2023 13:23:10 GMT

How do I add plaster thickness to walls already created?

i tried Options > Element Attributes> Composites>brick plastered both
sides.since the wall thickness is diferrent from my wall i tried to edit
the wall but the EDIT SELECTED ITEM is not getting selected.
thanks

Re: Addng plaster for walls

Anonymous — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:33:33 GMT

creative wrote:
How do I add plaster thickness to walls already created?

Hi,

Try doing that from "Floor Plan and Section" -> "Structure" -> "Cut Fill" in the settings of your wall (see the attached image).

Hope that helps,
Adrian Tudoreanu

Re: Addng plaster for walls

Anonymous — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:06:48 GMT

thats what i was trying to do but the problem is that i am not able to select the EDIT SELECTED ITEMS in the composite structure.when i click on edit selected menu it slide open and closes back and then is greyed.

Re: Addng plaster for walls

Anonymous — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:19:14 GMT

creative wrote:
i am not able to select the EDIT SELECTED ITEMS in the composite structure

I'm not sure I fully understood what you meant by that. If you are referring to changing the thickness of each skin, then try duplicating the composite structure and see if the new one can be edited.

Re: Addng plaster for walls

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:45:02 GMT

when i click on edit selected items it slide down and closed and is greyed(fig)

Re: Addng plaster for walls

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:10:23 GMT

creative wrote:
when i click on edit selected items it slide down and closed and is greyed(fig)

That is strange... It's true that when I close both tabs ("Edit Skin and Line Structure" and "Edit Selected Items"), it shows like in your image ("Edit Selected Items" is greyed and cannot be modified). But when I click on "Edit Skin and Line Structure", it becomes active and it behaves normal. Also make sure you have one skin or line selected (although this happens by default).

Hope that helps,
Adrian Tudoreanu

Re: Addng plaster for walls

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:41:50 GMT

adytc wrote:
creative wrote:
when i click on edit selected items it slide down and closed and is greyed(fig)
That is strange... It's true that when I close both tabs ("Edit Skin and Line Structure" and "Edit Selected Items"), it shows like in your image ("Edit Selected Items" is greyed and cannot be modified). But when I click on "Edit Skin and Line Structure", it becomes active and it behaves normal. Also make sure you have one skin or line selected (although this happens by default).

Hope that helps,
Adrian Tudoreanu

I tried selecting 1 skin or line but the problem persist.
Do i need to change any settings in work environment?

Re: Addng plaster for walls

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:45:34 GMT

creative wrote:
Do i need to change any settings in work environment?

I don't think so (or at least nothing in the work environment that could be related to this issue comes into my mind). One last thing ... try opening a new (blank) project, using the default template and see if the problem persists.
Maybe someone else here has any other ideas?

Cheers,
Adrian Tudoreanu

Re: Addng plaster for walls

Anonymous — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:42:43 GMT

help please

Re: Addng plaster for walls

Anonymous — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:15:58 GMT

Is it possible to add plaster by modifying the wall and columns as a complex profile and changing the skin priorities of the plaster in complex profile window?
will i get a correct floor plan display?

Re: Addng plaster for walls

Anonymous — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 12:47:55 GMT

creative wrote:
Is it possible to add plaster by modifying the wall and columns as a complex profile and changing the skin priorities of the plaster in complex profile window?
will i get a correct floor plan display?

YES !

you can select anywall on you plan...capture his profile...add plaster...apply to selection and it will be well presented in plan...section...3d...

Re: Addng plaster for walls

Anonymous — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:23:33 GMT

NeckoFromSarajevo wrote:
creative wrote:
Is it possible to add plaster by modifying the wall and columns as a complex profile and changing the skin priorities of the plaster in complex profile window?
will i get a correct floor plan display?
YES !

you can select anywall on you plan...capture his profile...add plaster...apply to selection and it will be well presented in plan...section...3d...

I tried creating complex walls and columns(see fig)
it shows a line between plaster for wall and column.Prority for wall plaster skin is adjusted higher than the priority for plaster skin of column.

Re: Addng plaster for walls

Anonymous — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:31:41 GMT

creative wrote:
NeckoFromSarajevo wrote:
creative wrote:
Is it possible to add plaster by modifying the wall and columns as a complex profile and changing the skin priorities of the plaster in complex profile window?
will i get a correct floor plan display?
YES !

you can select anywall on you plan...capture his profile...add plaster...apply to selection and it will be well presented in plan...section...3d...
I tried creating complex walls and columns(see fig)
it shows a line between plaster for wall and column.Prority for wall plaster skin is adjusted higher than the priority for plaster skin of column.

these lines will show up everytime when:
your two elements have different layer Intersection Group Number
your two elements have different fill type

you dont have to put plaster on culumns...just put it on walls and connect them...they will wrapped plaster around culumn ! check pic

Re: Addng plaster for walls

Anonymous — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 17:01:05 GMT

thanks NeckoFromSarajevo

thanks for your prompt replies.

Re: Addng plaster for walls

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:04:36 GMT

How to plaster the remaning portion of the column? (see fig)
I read "Wrapped Columns on the Floor Plan" in help file but somehow couldn't get it.

Also how to plaster window|door jambs?

Re: Addng plaster for walls

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:56:31 GMT

creative wrote:
How to plaster the remaning portion of the column? (see fig)
I read "Wrapped Columns on the Floor Plan" in help file but somehow couldn't get it.

Also how to plaster window|door jambs?

Wrapping Method: Not available for Profile (Complex) Columns.

When placing a Column that will intersect a Composite wall, your choice of Geometry method - wrapped or unwrapped - will affect the display of the wall/column in the Floor Plan.
Use the wrapped/unwrapped (or “freestanding”) icons from the Column Info Box or the Column Settings dialog box to determine how the columns will be interact with composite walls.
Wrapped Columns can only break through the core skins of composite Walls. The other wall skins wrap around the column, retaining their thickness.

look at pic

Re: Addng plaster for walls

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:15:06 GMT

go to Reveal/wall closure
and adjust your parametars for your windows and doors

Re: Addng plaster for walls

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:15:37 GMT

pic2

Re: Addng plaster for walls

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:19:38 GMT

NeckoFromSarajevo wrote:
creative wrote:
How to plaster the remaning portion of the column? (see fig)
I read "Wrapped Columns on the Floor Plan" in help file but somehow couldn't get it.

Also how to plaster window|door jambs?
Wrapping Method: Not available for Profile (Complex) Columns.

When placing a Column that will intersect a Composite wall, your choice of Geometry method - wrapped or unwrapped - will affect the display of the wall/column in the Floor Plan.
Use the wrapped/unwrapped (or “freestanding”) icons from the Column Info Box or the Column Settings dialog box to determine how the columns will be interact with composite walls.
Wrapped Columns can only break through the core skins of composite Walls. The other wall skins wrap around the column, retaining their thickness.

look at pic

I tried to change the column gometry to wrapped but nothing changed.
All the skins of wall are assigned as core.I need the first type from your fig.
thanks

Re: Addng plaster for walls

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:06:06 GMT

if all skins off your wall are assigned as core then nothing will be wrapped around.

Plz, assign correctly core skins and
Wrapped Columns can only break through the core skins of composite Walls. The other wall skins wrap around the column, retaining their thickness.

if you have all skins as core on your wall - nothing will wrap around culumn

you must have some skins assign as finish or other !
those skins which are assign as finish will wrap around culumn!
try it !