topic Re: Exclusive Access Functions in Project data & BIM

Exclusive Access Functions

kevin b — Fri, 26 May 2023 13:55:41 GMT

Is there a list that clearly outljines which functions in AC10 teamwork file require you to be signed in as Team Leader and with Exclusive Access?

Thought I had them all down in 9 but now with the layout book in 10 there seems to be some problems and Im not sure if its a bug or a "feature." The problem is arising when trying to modify some autotext and the project info it relates too, in a master layout. Someone signed in as Team Leader but not with exclusive access made some changes to the Master Layout but when plotted the changes did not "stick" This of course led me to think it might be an exclusive access issue but could not find a definitive list of what those things might be. In Help all I could find was a reference to "some attribute modifications are permitted only with exclusive access to the Project" but it doesn't tell you what those "some" things are.

Re: Exclusive Access Functions

Anonymous — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:23:32 GMT

bump - anyone? we're having the same questions - AC10 seems more restrictive than AC9 in terms of what a non-exclusive team leader can do. frustrating!

Re: Exclusive Access Functions

TomWaltz — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:55:51 GMT

There are some things like Schedules and Project Info that do require Exclusive Access.

I'm REALLY happy that anyone can add views to the project, though!

The User Manual makes mention of several tasks that require Exclusive Access, but not all in one place... there is no clean list like there is for other sign-in roles.

Re: Exclusive Access Functions

Anonymous — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:18:24 GMT

GS really ought to publish a definitive list. It is not reasonable to expect that we will all just figure it out for ourselves.

Re: Exclusive Access Functions

TomWaltz — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:24:50 GMT

Matthew wrote:
GS really ought to publish a definitive list. It is not reasonable to expect that we will all just figure it out for ourselves.

Why start documenting features now? 😉

Re: Exclusive Access Functions

Anonymous — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:36:54 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
Matthew wrote:
GS really ought to publish a definitive list. It is not reasonable to expect that we will all just figure it out for ourselves.
Why start documenting features now? 😉

I couldn't be in this business if I weren't perpetually optimistic.

Re: Exclusive Access Functions

TomWaltz — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:41:08 GMT

Matthew wrote:
TomWaltz wrote:
Matthew wrote:
GS really ought to publish a definitive list. It is not reasonable to expect that we will all just figure it out for ourselves.
Why start documenting features now? 😉
I couldn't be in this business if I weren't perpetually optimistic.

I'd call the idea of GS not documenting VERY optimistic.... especially for training consultants 😄

Re: Exclusive Access Functions

Anonymous — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:48:56 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
Matthew wrote:
TomWaltz wrote:
Why start documenting features now? 😉
I couldn't be in this business if I weren't perpetually optimistic.
I'd call the idea of GS not documenting VERY optimistic.... especially for training consultants 😄

Maybe it is self defeating but I have never subscribed to the Microsoft model of endlessly expanding IT budgets. Or, in other words, "Make it really complicated and they will keep coming back for more and more and more..."

Re: Exclusive Access Functions

Erika Epstein — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:28:39 GMT

Tom,
Whatever happened to that book on Teamwork you were going to write?

Re: Exclusive Access Functions

Anonymous — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:53:02 GMT

oooh - now there's an idea. a teamwork book! this board probably needs a separate teamwork forum to boot.

<ok, i'm ranting now - I'll stop in a minute..>

the whole teamwork concept requires one to *almost* completely re-think how architects traditionally think about their documentation needs. I'm not complaining, necessarily, just thinking out loud that such a paradigm shift might engender a few helpful.... er... flowcharts... or.... procedures... or the taking of our collective hands by the authors of this software. teamwork needs to be approached very, very, carefully! lots and lots of planning required before wading in - or a frustrating mess is the result. *especially* with a team of other architects in the room that need to pick up uh... pencils... mice... and get some good work done.

the "no drafting, only modeling" mantra I embrace, understand, and strive for. but on a practical level I sometimes feel that I may as well be training a room full of people to be an odd combination of bean-counting-higher-math-virtuoso-musicians given the level of skill and knowledge of the software required... all the tweaky toggles that need to be properly adjusted before anyone even begins work. and THEN... just when you think you've got it... we discover we're locked out of some crucial tweak in the settings so everyone takes a coffee break while the one or two people who really get it make the adjustments in views or whatever.

hence the need for templates... standards... procedures... deep knowledge of the manual. we *do* like the improvements in AC10 over previous versions... but still... sometimes we wish someone would throw us a bone...

<OK I feel better now>

Lep

Re: Exclusive Access Functions

Greg Kmethy — Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:23:47 GMT

As I am dealing a lot with TeamWork nowdays, I quickly shoveled together an ArchicadWiki article about roles in teamWork:

http://archicadwiki.com/Team_Leader

I can't guarantee that it's error free yet, so let me know if you find errors in it.

greg

Re: Exclusive Access Functions

TomWaltz — Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:39:38 GMT

Erika wrote:
Tom,
Whatever happened to that book on Teamwork you were going to write?

The same thing that happens to all great "time-up front" ideas.... other things get in the way! I still don't know how Dwight managed to write his....

I've been hammered under a huge project lately and hope to get back to normal life soon....

Re: Exclusive Access Functions

TomWaltz — Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:40:28 GMT

gkmethy wrote:
As I am dealing a lot with TeamWork nowdays, I quickly shoveled together an ArchicadWiki article about roles in teamWork:

http://archicadwiki.com/Team_Leader

I can't guarantee that it's error free yet, so let me know if you find errors in it.

greg

Either way, thanks Greg!!!