topic Re: How do I control how a door is assigned to which zone? in Project data & BIM

How do I control how a door is assigned to which zone?

4hotshoes — Wed, 05 Feb 2025 11:04:45 GMT

There is a zone on both sides of my doors. The door schedule reads one of the zones, but it does not seem to be the zone that has the door tag location or the door swing direction, and yet sometimes it is. I have not been able to figure out how to control it. What does?

Re: How do I control how a door is assigned to which zone?

Stress Co_ — Thu, 12 Nov 2020 17:43:30 GMT

It's in the door's settings:

Re: How do I control how a door is assigned to which zone?

4hotshoes — Thu, 12 Nov 2020 18:05:25 GMT

Thanks, but what does that mean? "The zone to which the door opens" is checked, but the direction of the swing is not it. Some doors don't have a swing and the swing direction is not the determining factor. How can a door be changed to be connected to the zone I want?

Re: How do I control how a door is assigned to which zone?

Stress Co_ — Thu, 12 Nov 2020 18:13:25 GMT

Does toggling that setting off change the schedule?

Re: How do I control how a door is assigned to which zone?

4hotshoes — Thu, 12 Nov 2020 18:15:24 GMT

No.

Re: How do I control how a door is assigned to which zone?

4hotshoes — Thu, 12 Nov 2020 18:22:32 GMT

I have tried inserting doors with the sunshine symbol on either side of the wall and the swing on either side of the wall, AND with the option checked and unchecked. No control yet.

Re: How do I control how a door is assigned to which zone?

Stress Co_ — Thu, 12 Nov 2020 19:13:09 GMT

You could add a field to your schedule:
"W/D To Zone" (or "W/D from Zone").
Then I think it recognizes the description tic box
and would list that zone.

Re: How do I control how a door is assigned to which zone?

4hotshoes — Thu, 12 Nov 2020 19:21:16 GMT

I tried the to and from zones, without success. What is in the door object that lets Archicad know what is "to" or "from" a zone/room?

Re: How do I control how a door is assigned to which zone?

Barry Kelly — Fri, 13 Nov 2020 02:36:20 GMT

Do you have multiple overlapping zones? (maybe in layers that are turned off).
Overlapping zones may confuse things I think.

I did a little test (with door 24) and it seems the 'Related zone' is not affected by the 'Door belongs to the zone into which it opens' parameter.
The related zone seems to be the one that the door swings into.

The 'From Room' & 'To Room' fields are affected by the 'Door belongs to...' parameter.
But it seems to me they are back to front.
I my example with that parameter 'ON', door 001 says it is from zone 01.
That door opens into zone 02, so I would have thought it should be from zone 02 - the zone into which it opens.

I don't think I would be relying on the from/to room fields.
It seems to me that the related zone is more reliable - but maybe further testing is needed.

Barry.

Re: How do I control how a door is assigned to which zone?

4hotshoes — Mon, 23 Nov 2020 14:45:37 GMT

I have no overlapping Zones on my project.

Re: How do I control how a door is assigned to which zone?

kdamasio — Thu, 13 Oct 2022 07:50:03 GMT

I have the same problem. Do you find a solution? (even 2 years after!)

Re: How do I control how a door is assigned to which zone?

gedzior84 — Fri, 30 Jun 2023 08:43:53 GMT

I think I've had the same problem as yours, and what has worked for me was to update the zones (DESIGN -> UPDATE ZONES).

My zones were automatic, and I think that is the case, but didn't check if the problem exists for the zones that are put manually.

Anyway, when I've updated the zones, all the doors were updated and linked to a proper zone.

Please check if it works for you, even though 3 years have passed 😄

Re: How do I control how a door is assigned to which zone?

mattmgut — Fri, 05 Jul 2024 17:23:53 GMT

I was having trouble with this as well and realized (after time) to verify the zone has the correct renovation status. When the zone is "existing" then the zone number does not show up in the door tag. When the zone is "new" then it picks up the zone number. For exterior doors that swing out, where a zone is not placed, the door will need to have the toggle mentioned by Stress Co unchecked.

Re: How do I control how a door is assigned to which zone?

leonardotalarico — Fri, 05 Jul 2024 18:45:15 GMT

Good afternoon 4hotshoes, how are you?

This type of mistake happens because the outside of the door or window is wrong.

Check if the Sun is facing outwards.

Re: How do I control how a door is assigned to which zone?

leonardotalarico — Fri, 05 Jul 2024 20:29:33 GMT

Sorry, after I read that you already tried the sun.
Just one question, are these zones in an associated module?

Re: How do I control how a door is assigned to which zone?

NateLumen — Tue, 23 Jul 2024 15:23:40 GMT

So @4hotshoes, we just had a similar issue which landed us at this forum. After a lot of troubleshooting and research, we found that there are a number of conditions that must be met for a door to associate with a zone. Graphisoft outlines them here. For us, the issue was that the zone on the "push" side of the door had been pulled across the threshold (see attached), meaning condition 1 of the zone being aligned with the edge of the wall had not been met. By trimming the zone to the wall on the push side of the door fixed this issue for us. Maybe this is your issue, maybe not, but we come across door/zone association issues every now and then, and I think the Graphisoft guide may be helpful.

Re: How do I control how a door is assigned to which zone?

Patrick M — Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:49:06 GMT

Here are a couple articles I have written on the subject:

https://wwabim.wordpress.com/2017/10/24/scheduling-doors-windows-to-zones/

https://wwabim.wordpress.com/2014/12/08/doorswindows-not-scheduling/