topic Re: wall reference line color in Project data & BIM

wall reference line color

Gabor Szelei — Thu, 17 Jul 2025 12:49:17 GMT

Hello,

Is it possible to change the color of the wall reference line somewhere?

The attached image clearly shows that, when the real pen thickness is turned on, the wall reference line is not visible. That's why I would like to change it to a more visible color, but I can't find the option anywhere.
Thanks for your help.

Gábor

Operating system used: Windows 10

Re: wall reference line color

NateLumen — Thu, 27 Mar 2025 02:42:05 GMT

If you look in Work Environment > User Preference Schemes > Selection and Element Information ..... you can adjust the color of the reference line.

Re: wall reference line color

Gabor Szelei — Mon, 24 Mar 2025 18:35:11 GMT

Thanks for the answer.

Of course, I know about this setting option! But it only works if the element is selected.

I'm looking for a solution so that if the wall is not selected, but the reference line is turned on, the reference line is still clearly visible! I would like the reference line to be red in the above case.

Gábor

Re: wall reference line color

Barry Kelly — Tue, 25 Mar 2025 01:19:20 GMT

I don't think you can control the colour when not selected.

Other than changing the colour of pen number 1 in your pen set.

But that will affect every other element that uses pen 1.

It is thicker and has the little direction arrow, so it should be fairly easy to see.

Barry.

Betreff: wall reference line color

Stefan L_ — Tue, 25 Mar 2025 10:04:25 GMT

The colour of the reference line (when not selected) is controlled by what was once called the 'primary pen', which is the cut contour pen for simple walls, but not for composite or profiled walls.

For composite/complex walls this pen setting is only accessible via CTRL-Shift-T (german version) or this button:

Re: wall reference line color

Gabor Szelei — Tue, 25 Mar 2025 12:40:28 GMT

Hello Barry & Stefan,

Changing the color of pen 1 doesn't work for me. It doesn't change the color of the reference line.

Do you see the reference line on the composite wall?

It's there, it just needs the right magnification.

That's why it would be good to be able to highlight the reference line with a clearly visible different color.

The solution suggested by Stefan works for composite walls, but unfortunately for simple walls it is not possible to change the color of the reference line compared to the color of the cut edge

The solution is acceptable for composite walls, although it is not primarily used to change the color of the reference line, but the result is adequate.

For simple walls, I don't think there is a solution to the problem!

The complicated solution would be a single-layer composite wall, but this is clearly not a viable option.

This also allows you to set whether a simple wall is a core, cladding or other structure. Because you can't set this for a simple wall either. But that's another story 🙂

So even in the case of small things, there would be something to tinker with in the program that would make the user's life easier.

I don't think this would be a very complicated thing to solve.
I think it would be very useful...

Gábor

Re: wall reference line color

Stefan L_ — Tue, 25 Mar 2025 13:45:09 GMT

@Gabor Szelei schrieb:

The complicated solution would be a single-layer composite wall, but this is clearly not a viable option.

This also allows you to set whether a simple wall is a core, cladding or other structure. Because you can't set this for a simple wall either. But that's another story 🙂

But this story is my creed. 😇

Not for colouring the refline differently, 'cause we use a kind of 'building material colour code' (concrete = green, masonry = red...), so the refline pen should always be the contour pen.

But with single-layer-composites you get wall types, with names and the possibility of further development.

Simple walls are way too unspecific, could be anything, everywhere...

BTW:

Why do you want coloured reflines in the first place? Want to distinguish things? So why do you work in black&white? 😉

Re: wall reference line color

Gabor Szelei — Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:09:01 GMT

Hello Stefan,

"But this story is my creed. 😇"

I'm glad, I'm not the only one, who goes against traffic on the highway 😁

Of course, the color is not important, since I am making a black&white plan, but in this one, a red reference line is clearly visible. ☝️

Why is it important that this is clearly visible? Because the orientation of the wall is important so that we can determine the outer/inner side of the wall...

I assign a lot of properties to a wall, be it simple or composite, some of which apply to the inner side, others to the outer side.

I would like to place the label for the inner side to the inner side, preferably so that it doesn't have to be flipped...

This would obviously not be necessary if it were possible to assign properties to a composite wall layer by layer, but this has been an insoluble task for developers for years...

"But with single-layer-composites you get wall types, with names and the possibility of further development."

Do wall types mean core, cladding, or other structure?

Could you tell me more about this?

Gábor

Re: wall reference line color

Stefan L_ — Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:55 GMT

Wall direction? Then keep it straight! 🤣

Curved walls ALLWAYS go counterclockwise.

Inside/Outside is -again - a benefit of using composite walls, you could use blue = cold for the outside and red = hot for the inside. Well, depends on your local climate...

Wall types (and ceilings, flooring, whatever...):

In early stages you don't know much about the construction, the cladding... It's just an outer wall, maybe 0.60m thick.

But by using a single-layer composite wall it has a name.

Later on you simply edit the 'type definition' and - wingardium leviosa - you float on to the next design stage.

Well, depends on inside/outside and direction... 🤣