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    <title>topic Re: Surface / Component Schedule Bug: Automatic Column Wrapping Ignores Folded Geometry and Returns in Project data &amp; BIM</title>
    <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Project-data-BIM/Surface-Component-Schedule-Bug-Automatic-Column-Wrapping-Ignores/m-p/715641#M15907</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/26904"&gt;@Narendra&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;!&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I always have problems with archicad's materials calculations and every time that happens I fall to doing what's wrong in a finish solid wall with the construction material and finish you want, in your case, just wrap a wall around the column and classify as wall finish.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As you noted, the wrap around function seems more visual than anything else, it even doesn't have plan view hotspots to accurately move things away from the finish. I think you should make this topic a wish in the wishlist.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I have the same troubles to quantify with the stairs tool, it's like the tools are made &lt;SPAN&gt;differently and doesn't talk with each other, its a major issue for us that manage the model and need to do automatic quantifications.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2026 12:33:32 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Ricardo Heim</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-09-25T12:33:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Surface / Component Schedule Bug: Automatic Column Wrapping Ignores Folded Geometry and Returns Flat</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Project-data-BIM/Surface-Component-Schedule-Bug-Automatic-Column-Wrapping-Ignores/m-p/715309#M15902</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Subject:&lt;/STRONG&gt; Surface / Component Schedule Bug: Automatic Column Wrapping Ignores Folded Geometry and Returns Flat Bounding Area&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hi everyone,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I am trying to extract accurate paint/finish quantities for a real-world structural condition where a &lt;STRONG&gt;structural Column intersects wall and is wrapped automatically by a composite Wall skin&lt;/STRONG&gt;. (Refer plan &amp;amp; 3D)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Narendra_0-1790146736088.png" style="width: 719px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/106134i3FDAFCB59123F27C/image-dimensions/719x393?v=v2" width="719" height="393" role="button" title="Narendra_0-1790146736088.png" alt="Narendra_0-1790146736088.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Narendra_1-1790146736147.png" style="width: 300px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/106135i1DA30BB6AC52BB39/image-dimensions/300x737?v=v2" width="300" height="737" role="button" title="Narendra_1-1790146736147.png" alt="Narendra_1-1790146736147.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;The Model Configuration:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;wall&lt;/STRONG&gt; is 1m long X 3m tall (Concrete block (intersection priority 750) +gyp plaster (IP-220) - finish (Titanium-white) +Cement sand plaster (IP-640)- finish (stucco yellow)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Column&lt;/STRONG&gt; is 0.3x0.3x3m tall (wrapped)(Reinf conc core (IP-800)(no veneer)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Surface Schedule (Exposed Area parameter): &lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;No matter which scheduling method I use, Archicad refuses to calculate the true unfolded surface area of the wrapped protrusion(Stucco-yellow) (which geometrically should be &lt;STRONG&gt;4.20 m²&lt;/STRONG&gt;). Instead, it falls back to a flat bounding calculation(1&lt;STRONG&gt;.98sqm(?)&lt;/STRONG&gt;)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Narendra_2-1790146736148.png" style="width: 1110px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/106133i29015F8469AC004F/image-dimensions/1110x161?v=v2" width="1110" height="161" role="button" title="Narendra_2-1790146736148.png" alt="Narendra_2-1790146736148.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Narendra_3-1790146736150.png" style="width: 1122px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/106136i93A4B91A9EAC004C/image-dimensions/1122x244?v=v2" width="1122" height="244" role="button" title="Narendra_3-1790146736150.png" alt="Narendra_3-1790146736150.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;The Problem with Scheduling:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;OL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Component Schedule (Projected Component Area (Net) parameter):&lt;/STRONG&gt; When scheduling the literal material skin (&lt;EM&gt;Plaster - Cement Sand&lt;/EM&gt;), Archicad completely ignores the 3D jogged geometry of the column wrap. It evaluates the 1.00m wall length deducted by column 0.3, strictly by its flat centerline projection (1.00m length × 0.7m height), yielding exactly &lt;STRONG&gt;2.10 m²&lt;/STRONG&gt; (flat face area) and omitting the depth of the column flanks entirely. (&lt;STRONG&gt;It should be 4.20 sqm&lt;/STRONG&gt;)&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/OL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;What I Have Already Tried (None of this works or are viable):&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;UL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Solid Element Operations (SEO):&lt;/STRONG&gt; Subtracting the column from the wall does not change or reduce the coplanar surface total in the schedule.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Changing Column to Independent:&lt;/STRONG&gt; Causes overlapping 3D volumes and incorrect/inflated totals across the overlapping elements.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Splitting/Breaking the Wall in 2D:&lt;/STRONG&gt; Not a viable option as this is a real-world building model and cutting structural walls into small pieces breaks standard architectural drafting workflows and cleanup lines.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;My Question:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Why does Archicad's calculation engine completely fail to unfold the perimeter length of an automatically wrapped composite skin? Is there a known workaround to force either a Surface or Component schedule to measure the &lt;EM&gt;true unfolded perimeter&lt;/EM&gt; of a wrapped element face without resorting to manual calculation multipliers?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Appreciate any insight or workarounds from the BIM managers here!&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Narendra (India)&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier" color="grey"&gt;Operating system used: &lt;EM&gt;Windows 10&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2026 16:14:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Project-data-BIM/Surface-Component-Schedule-Bug-Automatic-Column-Wrapping-Ignores/m-p/715309#M15902</guid>
      <dc:creator>Narendra</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-09-24T16:14:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Surface / Component Schedule Bug: Automatic Column Wrapping Ignores Folded Geometry and Returns</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Project-data-BIM/Surface-Component-Schedule-Bug-Automatic-Column-Wrapping-Ignores/m-p/715636#M15906</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi everyone,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;I was expecting an immediate reply because this is a hot issue-"Wrong quantities". I cannot pass the wrong information.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;We all are beyond creation of beautiful 3d models and are deep into information exchange from those models.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Besides somehow there is no direct communication with Graphisoft's think tank (at least from India).&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Hence an earnest request to suggest for any insight or workarounds from the BIM managers here!&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Narendra (India)&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2026 12:13:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Project-data-BIM/Surface-Component-Schedule-Bug-Automatic-Column-Wrapping-Ignores/m-p/715636#M15906</guid>
      <dc:creator>Narendra</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-09-25T12:13:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Surface / Component Schedule Bug: Automatic Column Wrapping Ignores Folded Geometry and Returns</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Project-data-BIM/Surface-Component-Schedule-Bug-Automatic-Column-Wrapping-Ignores/m-p/715641#M15907</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/26904"&gt;@Narendra&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;!&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I always have problems with archicad's materials calculations and every time that happens I fall to doing what's wrong in a finish solid wall with the construction material and finish you want, in your case, just wrap a wall around the column and classify as wall finish.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As you noted, the wrap around function seems more visual than anything else, it even doesn't have plan view hotspots to accurately move things away from the finish. I think you should make this topic a wish in the wishlist.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I have the same troubles to quantify with the stairs tool, it's like the tools are made &lt;SPAN&gt;differently and doesn't talk with each other, its a major issue for us that manage the model and need to do automatic quantifications.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2026 12:33:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Project-data-BIM/Surface-Component-Schedule-Bug-Automatic-Column-Wrapping-Ignores/m-p/715641#M15907</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ricardo Heim</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-09-25T12:33:32Z</dc:date>
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