topic Re: Attributes in AC19 in Project data & BIM

Attributes in AC19

Laura Yanoviak — Wed, 29 Jul 2015 00:14:47 GMT

Anyone else pulling their hair out over Attribute contamination in AC19? Attached is a screenshot of a straight-forward example of what has been happening with my Line Types, Fills and Building Materials.

Line Type Attribute #4 out-of-the-box is “Dashed”. For some reason, in the example below, it’s been replaced with “Solid Line (2)” even though “Solid Line” exists and is Attribute #1.

I'm creating our AC19 template, and have been careful not to cut/paste or otherwise import foreign elements, so I do not know where these rogue attributes are coming from.

Re: Attributes in AC19

David Shorter — Wed, 29 Jul 2015 04:57:00 GMT

seems that your file is not quite 'clean' I have just check the line attributes in an INT template and the sequence looks like this

Re: Attributes in AC19

Laura Yanoviak — Wed, 29 Jul 2015 11:57:49 GMT

Yes -- I know. The question is: where are these attributes coming from, and why are they overwriting existing attributes?

Re: Attributes in AC19

David Shorter — Wed, 29 Jul 2015 12:03:09 GMT

I assume you are using a clean template file so the only other option is that you have some 3rd party library or add on which is/are defining these attributes.
Hope this helps
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Re: Attributes in AC19

Laura Yanoviak — Wed, 29 Jul 2015 13:45:41 GMT

Nope -- we don't use add ons. Let me clarify -- this is not the first time I've migrated a template -- I've done this over 10 times over the past 10 years. This is a new problem.

Re: Attributes in AC19

Stress Co_ — Wed, 29 Jul 2015 16:16:17 GMT

I noticed this too.
Don't know the how or why... but the line (2) copies were associated with some of my composite walls.

The good thing was, they were easy to "delete and replace" with the original line type from the "Line Types" palette (not Attribute Manager).

Re: Attributes in AC19

jclewis — Wed, 29 Jul 2015 16:21:20 GMT

Laura

It's not new to 19. I have had it happen in 18 several times.

I haven't run down the reason yet - we just delete and replace as needed.

jcl

Re: Attributes in AC19

Laura Yanoviak — Wed, 29 Jul 2015 16:46:58 GMT

I've had similar problems with AC18, but this is the first time it's been so problematic (probably because of the process of re-creating the template). Good to know it's not just me.

Re: Attributes in AC19

Stress Co_ — Wed, 29 Jul 2015 17:01:57 GMT

Have you noticed any new,
duplicate Building Materials?
I had that too.

Re: Attributes in AC19

Laura Yanoviak — Wed, 29 Jul 2015 17:51:37 GMT

Yep -- duplicated Building Materials -- in one instance I had multiple Air Space materials (Air Space (2), Air Space (3)) appear when Air Space was clearly already an available attribute.

What's even MORE frustrating is Building Materials being redefined (i.e. assigned a different Fill and/or Surface than the one originally assigned).

Re: Attributes in AC19

David Shorter — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 00:41:22 GMT

Hi Laura

Laura wrote:
Nope -- we don't use add ons. Let me clarify -- this is not the first time I've migrated a template -- I've done this over 10 times over the past 10 years. This is a new problem.

I'm not doubting your expertise just trying to help.....

Re: Attributes in AC19

Anonymous — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 01:43:25 GMT

Hey Laura

Purely because I had a similar situation in the 16 to 18 days, have you got any old complex profiles still in the template?

Re: Attributes in AC19

Laura Yanoviak — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 02:59:19 GMT

Yes. They've all been re-created now, so it will be interesting to see if this problem persists. Thanks for the suggestion.

Re: Attributes in AC19

Anonymous — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 04:39:09 GMT

Keep an eye on the other attributes too mate! Most of them have the nice little associated attributes option of some kind!
Took me a full day to find a rogue line in a composite when I was migrating/updating!