topic Re: Sign-in "qualities" in Project data & BIM

Sign-in "qualities"

Anonymous — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 04:40:55 GMT

We seem to have just discovered that when you sign in using "Layer Combination", you only can edit those layers when you have that layer combination selected in your workspace. We haven't taken the 10 minutes to absolutely corroborate this since we are in the middle of a big push, but can anyone confirm or deny this functionality? Seems a little heavy-handed...

Re: Sign-in "qualities"

Brad Elliott — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:38:01 GMT

We need a lot more information to give a reasonable reply. Are you talking about using Teamworks? If so that is correct that you can only work on what you selected when you logged in. This allows other people to log in and work on what remains.

Re: Sign-in "qualities"

Link — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:47:36 GMT

That's right, you can only edit the elements that you have signed into.

What's worse is that all team members can only sign in to one layer combo at a time. A pitiful shortcoming which I suspect is caused by all layer combos having to contain the ArchiCAD layer.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Sign-in "qualities"

vfrontiers — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 07:58:48 GMT

A couple of thoughts....

1. I use CHANGE MY WORKSPACE a lot. It's pretty easy and if you're in the habit of only signing into the layers you need, you won't have to have someone else SIGN OUT of that layer 1st!

2. Set up Special Layer Combinations (in your template, too) for signing in purposes.

3. You don't need the layers if you're working in the "extra" windows- ELEVATION, SECTION, DETAIL etc. Hmmm, at least when those windows are drawings. I am not sure what happens when they are linked to the model.

Re: Sign-in "qualities"

Link — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 08:08:34 GMT

vfrontiers wrote:
A couple of thoughts....

1. I use CHANGE MY WORKSPACE a lot. It's pretty easy and if you're in the habit of only signing into the layers you need, you won't have to have someone else SIGN OUT of that layer 1st!

2. Set up Special Layer Combinations (in your template, too) for signing in purposes.

But still, only one layer combo can be signed into at any one time.

vfrontiers wrote:
3. You don't need the layers if you're working in the "extra" windows- ELEVATION, SECTION, DETAIL etc. Hmmm, at least when those windows are drawings. I am not sure what happens when they are linked to the model.

Then it depends on who got them in the plan.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Sign-in "qualities"

Anonymous — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:06:28 GMT

Just a tip; You can sign into a project with a "empty" marquee, selecting all of the stories and all of the layers - You can then ADD elements on any story and any layer. You just cannot change any thing that is already within the project.

Re: Sign-in "qualities"

Link — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 00:22:26 GMT

This may also help.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Sign-in "qualities"

vfrontiers — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 04:20:03 GMT

Thanks for the Matrix, Link....

I always wondered why the SCHEDULES / INDEXES can't be "owned" by a teammate. It's discouraging to have to sign in exclusively to edit a schedule.

Maybe a wish for 12...13

Re: Sign-in "qualities"

Link — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 04:44:31 GMT

Yes, Index Settings and Scheme Settings can't be owned, yet List Schemes can. It's just messy, but I'm sure GS will clean it up soon.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Sign-in "qualities"

Anonymous — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:15:31 GMT

(My apologies for my silence - I didn't realize the thread had been picked up on until someone in my office noticed the topic)

Maybe I will have the chance to double check my claim, but my point was that when signing in to Teamwork using a layer combination (say "Reflected Ceiling Plan"), you could only edit elements on the "Walls - Exterior" layer when you had "Reflected Ceiling Plan" chosen as the layer combination for you view. It seemed like when you had another layer combination chose that had "Walls - Exterior" visible and unlocked, you weren't able to edit the elements. I guess I'd better run a test since no one seemed get my original point and maybe my observation was completely daft...

I'll try to repost soon.

Re: Sign-in "qualities"

vfrontiers — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:02:21 GMT

Ted wrote:
(My apologies for my silence - I didn't realize the thread had been picked up on until someone in my office noticed the topic)

Maybe I will have the chance to double check my claim, but my point was that when signing in to Teamwork using a layer combination (say "Reflected Ceiling Plan"), you could only edit elements on the "Walls - Exterior" layer when you had "Reflected Ceiling Plan" chosen as the layer combination for you view. It seemed like when you had another layer combination chose that had "Walls - Exterior" visible and unlocked, you weren't able to edit the elements. I guess I'd better run a test since no one seemed get my original point and maybe my observation was completely daft...

I'll try to repost soon.

I think where I was headed was creating a completely different set of Layer Combinations in addition to those needed for output.

eg.
Reflected Clg Plan
Reflected Clg Teamwork (only visible layers are CLGS, CLG TAGS, SOFFITS, etc)

Floor Plan
Model Editing Teamwork

So the layers that you SIGN INTO are set by the layer combo, but these new combos will only include the layers you need to EDIT.

You, of course, will be able to reset your plan view to the OUTPUT layer combo once you are in the file, so you can see the regular Ref. Clg. Plan.

I hope I am explaining this well...

Re: Sign-in "qualities"

vfrontiers — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:06:08 GMT

It will remain the case that only ONE teammate will own any ONE layer at a time...