topic Re: Overriding hotlink module properties in Project data & BIM

Overriding hotlink module properties

ArchiMind — Wed, 12 Oct 2022 08:33:45 GMT

Hello everyone,

I’m interested in knowing is it possible to override the hotlink module properties in the host file.

For example if I have a module that represents typical floor plan with zone that has a property name room 101, is it possible in host file to override the zone property to room 201,301… depending on the floor that zone is on.

Cheers,

Stefan Veselinović

Re: Overriding hotlink module properties

Turit — Wed, 12 Oct 2022 09:08:48 GMT

We use the ID instead of the room number. Thus, the module id and the element ID together give the "numbering" of the room.

Re: Overriding hotlink module properties

ArchiMind — Wed, 12 Oct 2022 09:56:07 GMT

ID is ok, but more than often we have more entrances inside bulding( for example Entrance A, aprt 101, Entrance B apt 101..) And therefore we use ID for grouping the apartmens by entrances. That's why I am curious to know is ut possible to override the properties inside the host file

Cheers,

Re: Overriding hotlink module properties

Turit — Wed, 12 Oct 2022 11:37:45 GMT

I don't think it's a problem. You may need to enter the ID differently. For example:

Re: Overriding hotlink module properties

ArchiMind — Wed, 12 Oct 2022 14:28:05 GMT

I will have this in mind, but it’s not giving me the answers is it possible to override properties of module in host file. 🙂

Cheers,

Re: Overriding hotlink module properties

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 12 Oct 2022 21:53:44 GMT

The answer to your original question is a no.

Hotlinked Modules placed into a project file behave as a locked group of elements. Since they are "locked", no element within any Hotlinked Module can be modified in the project file it is placed into, including their geometry, parameters, and properties.

Re: Overriding hotlink module properties

ArchiMind — Wed, 12 Oct 2022 22:23:29 GMT

Hello Laszlo,

Thank you for the answer.

I thought there was maybe a way to use expressions to achieve this kind of workaround. To be precise with "substitute strings".

But if it's not possible then I guess that manual zoning in the host file is an approach that will fulfill company needs for now. Or we will try to find some kind of combination of what @Turit suggested and new ideas.
It's a real pity that we can't enrich information hotlink modules in the host file, it would have a lot of potential for new data integration and scheduling, especially in big designs.

Cheers,

Re: Overriding hotlink module properties

Barry Kelly — Thu, 13 Oct 2022 00:58:04 GMT

Don't forget modules have a 'Master ID' that you can set as you place the module or can edit afterwards.

You may be able to use the Master ID in conjunction with the element ID and properties.

Barry.

Re: Overriding hotlink module properties

Laszlo Nagy — Thu, 13 Oct 2022 10:19:01 GMT

@ArchiMind wrote:

But if it's not possible then I guess that manual zoning in the host file is an approach that will fulfill company needs for now.

Yes, I would probably place those Zones in the host as well.

Re: Overriding hotlink module properties

Rb1990 — Thu, 08 Dec 2022 09:51:10 GMT

Hello Archimind,

I made a property in the zones that looks at the Hotlink Master ID, and adds that value to the zone number. I combine the text with the zone number plus it automatically adds the floor number (the 01), it combines it with a '.' you can ofcourse also add these values yo each other. In my example I add the number from the master ID to the zone number .

And show it using the Model view

So in this example, the two floor plans on the right are modules, but you can still manipulate the properties in it, so no manual texts or labels, and if the zone changes in the module,

You can make a property do this: it looks at the home story number multiplies it with 100 and then add your zone number. So there are alot of different ways to do this, it does this automatically and also in a hotlinked module 😄

Re: Overriding hotlink module properties

ArchiMind — Mon, 19 Dec 2022 07:18:01 GMT

Hello @Rb1990

This looks promising, and a very interesting approach.

But to be able to achieve something like this, I would need to create a custom MVO for that. Unfortunately, I haven't got to that part, of how to do it, maybe you could post some kind of tutorial for that?

Cheers,

Stefan

Re: Overriding hotlink module properties

Rb1990 — Tue, 24 Jan 2023 11:44:36 GMT

Sorry I just realised that to override the model view options we use the addition that the dutch publisher of Archicad made, i dont think its possible to buy that addition from outside of the Netherlands.

Re: Overriding hotlink module properties

ArchiMind — Tue, 24 Jan 2023 17:14:31 GMT

Is it possible to send me the name of the addon, so i could ask local ArchiCad representative to make something for our Balkan region, or even maybe make it International, being that this has a promise that many user would benefit?

Cheers,

Stefan

Re: Overriding hotlink module properties

Rb1990 — Thu, 26 Jan 2023 10:57:10 GMT

The whole package is called Keymember edition, its made by Kubus (dutch) . The addon is also called Archicad Keymember edition. To add properties to the zones its called : 'Inhoud en opmaak zone stempels (Keymember 26) , it would be nice if Graphisoft could also make this feature standard in its package,