topic Loading AC Library on the Local Computer vs. Server in Project data & BIM

Loading AC Library on the Local Computer vs. Server

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 17:20:49 GMT

Hi,
Is it possible to have archicad load (delivered library) AC Library from the local computer and the office standards libraries from the server? This will help loading time of AC.
Thanks,
Joseph

Re: Loading AC Library on the Local Computer vs. Server

TomWaltz — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:39:41 GMT

Not only possible, but advisable.

I think that's what most people do.

Re: Loading AC Library on the Local Computer vs. Server

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:10:42 GMT

yes, that's the way we have it here.

Re: Loading AC Library on the Local Computer vs. Server

Link — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 21:19:43 GMT

A typical scenario:

ArchiCAD Library: Local

Office Library: Server

Project Library: Server

This is usually because the ArchiCAD Library is so big and usually remains unaltered and the other librtaries are smaller so loading over a network does not take that long. It's also becoming popular to sync to local machines via external software like Allway Sync, especially if the libraries are getting larger.

The most important thing is to keep the paths the same on each computer (at least for PC - not sure how different Mac HD names affect library loading in AC10). If ArchiCAD finds the same path on any machine, you won't have to manually locate them.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Loading AC Library on the Local Computer vs. Server

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 21:26:03 GMT

Link wrote:
The most important thing is to keep the paths the same on each computer (at least for PC - not sure how different Mac HD names affect library loading in AC10). If ArchiCAD finds the same path on any machine, you won't have to manually locate them.
Cheers,
Link.

Yes,
This is where my problem is, the path. Every time I open a project on a different computer I have to set the Local path. Any Mac users have a suggestions.
Thanks,,
Joseph

Re: Loading AC Library on the Local Computer vs. Server

__archiben — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:05:06 GMT

Joseph wrote:
Any Mac users have a suggestions.

ensure all of your machine hark disks are called the same name (this doesn't affect their "sharing" network name: System Preferences>Sharing), just the hard disk name - usually it's called "Macintosh HD" by default: don't change it.

and if you don't want to do that you'll just have to load them all from the server!

~/archiben

Re: Loading AC Library on the Local Computer vs. Server

Link — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:13:28 GMT

~/archiben wrote:
Joseph wrote:
Any Mac users have a suggestions.
ensure all of your machine hark disks are called the same name (this doesn't affect their "sharing" network name: System Preferences>Sharing), just the hard disk name - usually it's called "Macintosh HD" by default: don't change it.

and if you don't want to do that you'll just have to load them all from the server!

~/archiben

So it hasn't changed in ArchiCAD at all then?

I thought maybe GS would imoplement some kind of relative path like in the Drawing tool to help with that. Oh well...

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Loading AC Library on the Local Computer vs. Server

__archiben — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:32:24 GMT

Link wrote:
I thought maybe GS would imoplement some kind of relative path like in the Drawing tool to help with that. Oh well...

that would be nice. i must admit i haven't tested out AC10 in a network environment thoroughly. tom might know more . . .

~/archiben

Re: Loading AC Library on the Local Computer vs. Server

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:35:41 GMT

~/archiben wrote:
Joseph wrote:
Any Mac users have a suggestions.

ensure all of your machine hark disks are called the same name (this doesn't affect their "sharing" network name: System Preferences>Sharing), just the hard disk name - usually it's called "Macintosh HD" by default: don't change it.

and if you don't want to do that you'll just have to load them all from the server!

~/archiben

Thanks,
Hard to belive, I will try that. Is there a way of telling that if the one loaded is on the intended computer?
Thanks again,
Joseph

Re: Loading AC Library on the Local Computer vs. Server

__archiben — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:41:52 GMT

Joseph wrote:
Is there a way of telling that if the one loaded is on the intended computer?

look at the file path in your library manager . . .

~/archiben

Re: Loading AC Library on the Local Computer vs. Server

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:10:19 GMT

Thanks Ben,
If my server is one of my workstations (do not have a dedicated server yet) would that change anything?
Thanks,
Joseph

Re: Loading AC Library on the Local Computer vs. Server

__archiben — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:14:12 GMT

Joseph wrote:
Thanks Ben,
If my server is one of my workstations (do not have a dedicated server yet) would that change anything?

no - provided all files are looking to that volume for their libraries . . .

have you tried 'sharepoints'? it's a small shareware application that taps into OSX's hidden file sharing features and lets you use a normal OSX system/workstation as a file server . . .

http://www.hornware.com/sharepoints/

~/archiben

Re: Loading AC Library on the Local Computer vs. Server

Anonymous — Wed, 26 Jul 2006 01:00:34 GMT

~/archiben wrote:
Joseph wrote:
Thanks Ben,
If my server is one of my workstations (do not have a dedicated server yet) would that change anything?

no - provided all files are looking to that volume for their libraries . . .

have you tried 'sharepoints'? it's a small shareware application that taps into OSX's hidden file sharing features and lets you use a normal OSX system/workstation as a file server . . .

http://www.hornware.com/sharepoints/

~/archiben

Hi Again,

I do not want to pull my hair out since not much is left! But it still does not work, this is my setup:

I have a MacBook & PPC G5, the PPC G5 has my office library & the project specific library on it. Both hard dives are named Mac HD (and made sure I rename the root project folders of my projects and libraries different on the MacBook than the PPC G5)

Now when I load the project on the MB, the AC Library loads fine but library manager pops up asking for office library & the project specific library which I point to the network drive (PPC G5) and I save the project to the network on PPC G5 drive.
Now when I go to PPC G5 to load the project on its drive, library manager pops up asking for office library & the project specific library and again I point to the PPC G5 location of these files and save the project. Going back to MacBook the cycle starts again.....
I am going crazy. I am sure others do networking, what am I doing wrong!!??? (I am using the universal version of AC10)

Also how could "sharepoints" help me? Just do not add another confused person to the world if I am not already.
Thanks,
Joseph

Re: Loading AC Library on the Local Computer vs. Server

Anonymous — Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:56:08 GMT

I think the problem is the fact that I am using one of the two workstation as a Server also. As the result the paths to the libraries have to be reset on each computer each time AC is loaded. I am going to have all my libraries on both computer identical and point to the local libraries only till I get a MacTel server.
Any thoughts,
Thanks,
Joseph