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2 different scaled views of the 1 drawing.... not working??

Anonymous — Tue, 30 May 2023 10:54:29 GMT

howdy

i have a drawing set-up in the project map that has certain info on it and scaled at say..... 1:50

from there i want to have 2 "view maps" views of that drawing.... 1 @ 1:50 with layer combo X and another view of it at 1:100 with layer combo Y

HOWEVER..... whenever i mavigate between the 2 viewsets the scale of the drawing does not change.... even though the viewset setting shows that view 02 is 1:100 it still shows at 1:50

if i change the projec map scale to 1:100... when i navigate to the view-map of view 01 it shows at 1:100 (and not 1:50)

round and round we go

is there something i am missing... or is this NOT the way to approach this problem?

any help/guidance/insight would be greatly appreciated

thanks

yukioMishima

Re: 2 different scaled views of the 1 drawing.... not workin

Anonymous — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:59:57 GMT

Is the view a clone or did you just change settings and "Save current view"?

Re: 2 different scaled views of the 1 drawing.... not workin

Anonymous — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:48:52 GMT

s2art

thanks for the reply

One is a clone, and the other is a saved view.

is it possible to make 2 clones?

maybe better to create 2 saved views and no clones?

best option?

thanks

yukioMishima

Re: 2 different scaled views of the 1 drawing.... not workin

Anonymous — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:36:35 GMT

Clones are nice especially when working with a multiple story building. Trying right clicking on the main view then select View Settings. Make sure that the Scale is set properly there. These are the setting that define the view itself.

Re: 2 different scaled views of the 1 drawing.... not workin

Anonymous — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:54:08 GMT

i have done some further tests

i have created a drawing in the project map at 1:100

i have then created a "view" of that at 1:100 and 1:50 (no clones involved this time)

when i click on each view in the navigator i can see the scale change... HOWEVER.... the actual drawing scale does not change (the scale at the bottom left of the drawing shows whatever scale the actual drawing is set to and NOT the scale of the view)

any help would be greatly appreciated

thanks

yukioMishima

Re: 2 different scaled views of the 1 drawing.... not workin

Thomas Holm — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:31:42 GMT

yukioMishima wrote:
i have done some further tests

i have created a drawing in the project map at 1:100

i have then created a "view" of that at 1:100 and 1:50 (no clones involved this time)

yukioMishima

I assume that you by "create a drawing" meant that you created a viewpoint in the project map.

When you Save Views, they are listed in the Navigator's View Map list. If you click on a saved view there, it will open in a new or existing screen window with the scale saved with the view.

If you click on a viewpoint in the Project Map list, it will show while retaining the current screen window's visibility settings, layer combination, scale etc.

Consult the Help file for more info.

Re: 2 different scaled views of the 1 drawing.... not workin

Anonymous — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:19:54 GMT

thomas

here are the steps i follow:
- create independant section @ 1:100 (shows up in navigator>prohect map)
- swap over to navigator>view map
- save current view as section 1:100
- save a seconf current view... this time setting scale to 1:50

both views source the original independant section create in step 1

however.... even though the view setting show the scales are different... when i activate the view... the scale in the bottom left of the drawing window still says that the view is set to the same scale as the drawing in the project map

i hope that this is clear

anyone?

thanks

yukioMishima

Re: 2 different scaled views of the 1 drawing.... not workin

Thomas Holm — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:34:24 GMT

How do you activate the view?

Re: 2 different scaled views of the 1 drawing.... not workin

Anonymous — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:19:52 GMT

by double clicking on it in the list in the navigator window (navigator>view map)

hope this helps

thanks again

yukioMishima

Re: 2 different scaled views of the 1 drawing.... not workin

Thomas Holm — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:36:23 GMT

yukioMishima wrote:
by double clicking on it in the list in the navigator window (navigator>view map)

hope this helps

Well, no. (edited) If you have saved the view's scale setting correctly (open the cloned view, change settings as you like, open the View Settings dialog and click the button "Get current view's settings" and then click OK) and it still doesn't work, then you have a bug or something is wrong with your installation. It works here.

I guess re-install is the best option.

Re: 2 different scaled views of the 1 drawing.... not workin

Anonymous — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:53:34 GMT

hmmm... weird

it is happening on 3 different machines (at least)... each one with a different "patch" number (970, 1040 and 1114)

seems odd that all of them would need reinstalling

yukioMishima

Re: 2 different scaled views of the 1 drawing.... not workin

Thomas Holm — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:02:12 GMT

yukioMishima wrote:
hmmm... weird

it is happening on 3 different machines (at least)... each one with a different "patch" number (970, 1040 and 1114)

seems odd that all of them would need reinstalling

yukioMishima

I agree. But if you follow the procedure to the letter, and it still doesn't work for you , there must be something wrong at your place, either with the program or the project. It works here and for everybody I know.

Re: 2 different scaled views of the 1 drawing.... not workin

Anonymous — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:50:31 GMT

i guess i must be doing something wrong in the way i set it all up then

this is happening in both single-user files.... on teamwork files.... on files where there are clones... in files where both of the views are simply saved views from the original independant section

if anyone could jot down step by step instructions that need to be followed to get this to work i would greatly appreciate it (or review the ones that i posted earlier and let me know if/where i am going wrong)

thanks

yukioMishima

Re: 2 different scaled views of the 1 drawing.... not workin

Dennis Lee — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:02:37 GMT

yukioMishima wrote:
thomas

here are the steps i follow:
- create independant section @ 1:100 (shows up in navigator>prohect map)
- swap over to navigator>view map
- save current view as section 1:100
- save a seconf current view... this time setting scale to 1:50

both views source the original independant section create in step 1

however.... even though the view setting show the scales are different... when i activate the view... the scale in the bottom left of the drawing window still says that the view is set to the same scale as the drawing in the project map

i hope that this is clear

anyone?

thanks

yukioMishima

I just tried it, and I have the same "problem". However, it seems the views maintain the correct scales that I set. It is just the display of the scale in the lower left hand corner that remains unchanged. If you click it though, it shows that the scale is correct in the pop up window. I think this must be a small bug that doesn't affect the actual work.

Re: 2 different scaled views of the 1 drawing.... not workin

Anonymous — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:20:30 GMT

Dennis

thanks for the reply

correct me if i am wrong...... but you will notice that the scale does NOT change.... it is particulary noticeable if you have text on each of the drawings (at different scales)... text is the best way of verifying that the view scale is fixed to the saved drawing scale and does not change between the 2 saved views

please test and the confirm/deny if you get a minute

thanks

yukioMishima

Re: 2 different scaled views of the 1 drawing.... not workin

Thomas Holm — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:41:18 GMT

yukioMishima wrote:
f anyone could jot down step by step instructions that need to be followed to get this to work i would greatly appreciate it (or review the ones that i posted earlier and let me know if/where i am going wrong)

I'm sorry I can't help you more. It seems to me that your description of what you're doing, + what I posted above, should be enough to make it work. Perhaps someone else has dome ideas?

Re: 2 different scaled views of the 1 drawing.... not workin

Anonymous — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:03:23 GMT

thomas

thanks for your help thus far

any chance you could post here a minimal .pln file where you have this working (stffed/zipped)

i can then check it here to see if it is my install that is funked up

thanks

yukioMishima

Re: 2 different scaled views of the 1 drawing.... not workin

Dennis Lee — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:33:03 GMT

yukioMishima wrote:
Dennis

thanks for the reply

correct me if i am wrong...... but you will notice that the scale does NOT change.... it is particulary noticeable if you have text on each of the drawings (at different scales)... text is the best way of verifying that the view scale is fixed to the saved drawing scale and does not change between the 2 saved views

please test and the confirm/deny if you get a minute

thanks

yukioMishima

I did look at text to verify that the scale was indeed changing, but did it again here. If you click the scale button in the lower left hand corner, do you get a different scale (showing the correct scale) in the pop up window like I do?

Re: 2 different scaled views of the 1 drawing.... not workin

Dennis Lee — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:33:42 GMT

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