topic Re: problem with layers.. in Project data & BIM

problem with layers..

Anonymous — Tue, 30 May 2023 10:52:02 GMT

i'm having a problem with the layer managment.
I dont want the zone stamps to show on the publishers paper, but even with the layer frozen in the model and in the papers they are appearing..
How can I solve that??

Thanks

Re: problem with layers..

Anonymous — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:20:50 GMT

What do you mean by "frozen"?
Bier

Re: problem with layers..

Anonymous — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:22:39 GMT

Bier wrote:
What do you mean by "frozen"?
Bier

That would be "turned off" when translated from AutoCAD to Archicad speak.

Re: problem with layers..

Anonymous — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:29:58 GMT

If "publisher paper" is view, wouldn't MVO>Hide zone stamp; work for that view?
But s2art would know better than I.
Oh, and thanks s2art.
Bier

Re: problem with layers..

Anonymous — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 03:04:43 GMT

Bier wrote:
If "publisher paper" is view, wouldn't MVO>Hide zone stamp; work for that view?
But s2art would know better than I.
Oh, and thanks s2art.
Bier

No I wouldn't, but I think you're probably correct. I have been using Archicad full time for 6 years, and have used Zones once.

Re: problem with layers..

Anonymous — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:04:08 GMT

It didn't worked.
The zone stamps is hide in the model with this command, and in the new sheet's that i create.
But all the old ones, the stamp is still visible.
Is there another solution??
Thanks

Re: problem with layers..

Laszlo Nagy — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:14:18 GMT

Can you show a screen shot of the problem?

Re: problem with layers..

Anonymous — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:58:51 GMT

s2art wrote:
I have been using Archicad full time for 6 years, and have used Zones once.

So, whaddya use for room names that automatically generates a finish schedule, and that updates square footage? Is there something that works better? Or something you've created? or d'ya just use text and Excel?

Re: problem with layers..

Anonymous — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:27:04 GMT

Jocelyn wrote:
s2art wrote:
I have been using Archicad full time for 6 years, and have used Zones once.
So, whaddya use for room names that automatically generates a finish schedule, and that updates square footage? Is there something that works better? Or something you've created? or d'ya just use text and Excel?

Room names are just text, and we very rarely measure areas of individual spaces. I know, it ain't BIM.

But you can do this too for areas... Link's tip

Re: problem with layers..

Anonymous — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:41:34 GMT

s2art wrote:
Jocelyn wrote:
s2art wrote:
I have been using Archicad full time for 6 years, and have used Zones once.
So, whaddya use for room names that automatically generates a finish schedule, and that updates square footage? Is there something that works better? Or something you've created? or d'ya just use text and Excel?
Room names are just text, and we very rarely measure areas of individual spaces. I know, it ain't BIM.

Eh... I'm just lazy, and find that building finish schedules is too tedious. I really wish the zone tool would show general dimensions also, instead of just area. The update would save me TONS of time and tedious effort during Schematic Design.

Re: problem with layers..

Anonymous — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:32:32 GMT

Jocelyn wrote:
Eh... I'm just lazy, and find that building finish schedules is too tedious. I really wish the zone tool would show general dimensions also, instead of just area. The update would save me TONS of time and tedious effort during Schematic Design.

This thread may be useful -

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=7665&postdays=0&postorder=asc

It gives the code to add to a zone enabling you manually set and display the LxW of a room.

Re: problem with layers..

Anonymous — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:19:18 GMT

Hi there..
i have pictures showing what I mean.
I turn off the layer model zone and despite of that it continues to show on the paper area...
the 1 pic show the stamp on paper
the 2 show the turn off mode on model and the 3 shows the layer turn off and the stamp appearing ...

Re: problem with layers..

Anonymous — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:21:18 GMT

second image

Re: problem with layers..

Anonymous — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:22:22 GMT

last image

Re: problem with layers..

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:37:28 GMT

If you go to the Layer Settings Dialog in the Layout Book then that will affect 2D drawing elements placed onto the Layout itself. It does not affect elements within a Drawing placed onto the Layout.

If you select the Drawing on the Layout and right-click, the Context Menu appears and you select the Open Source View command from the context menu, ArchiCAD will go back to the Floor Plan viewpoint and will set the settings the Drawing is seen in the Layout.
Note that when you place a Drawing on the Layout, its source is always a View: a View is a viewpoint with saved settings of Layer Combination, Pen Set, Scale etc. So you will need to modify the Layer Combination used in the View on which the Drawing placed on the Layout is based.
I hope this makes sense.

Re: problem with layers..

Anonymous — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:53:11 GMT

Re: problem with layers..

Anonymous — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 03:11:24 GMT

Yes, I know.
I return to the Floor Plan with the Open Source View command, and lock and hide the zone layer. It's perfect. But when I return to the Layout the layer unlock and show the stamps. Then I return to floor plan again and it is showing the stamps.
I need to save the new settings? Here can I save it??
Thanks

Re: problem with layers..

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:27:30 GMT

The problem is that when you return to the Floor Plan, the layer shows.
See, Drawing that is placed on that Layout has a source. That source is a View. Now, Views are found in the View Map part of the Navigator. The Floor Plan is a viewpoint. If you save a View, that will be a viewpoint with specific settings, including scale, Layer Combination, Pen Set etc. The source of a Drawing placed on a Layout is always a View, never a Viewpoint. In other words, its source is a View of the Floor Plan Viewpoint located in the View Map, and not the Floor Plan Viewpoint.
So you will have the find in the View Map the View that is the source of the Drawing and change the settings of the View. Or save another View and place that View onto the Layout.
If you select the Drawing on the Layout and go to the Drawing Settings Dialog, it will tell you in the "ArchiCAD view" filed of the Identification panel exactly where in the View Map the source View of the Drawing is located.