topic Re: Quick Layers Palette ... wont stick with WE in Project data & BIM

Quick Layers Palette ... wont stick with WE

owen — Tue, 30 May 2023 11:01:09 GMT

I am having a problem getting the Quick Layers palette to stick with my Work Environments. It is saved with both of the WE's I use but whenever I start AC or switch between the two this palette always turns itself off - every other palette is fine

I had the same problem in v9 but couldn't be bothered posting about it but ive finally had enough of it. Any ideas why this one is being so stubborn?

Re: Quick Layers Palette ... wont stick with WE

Link — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 03:00:48 GMT

According to Graphisoft terminology, the Quick Layers palette is not officially a palette. So it's visibility is not stored with a Palette Scheme.

Neither is Element Information or Selections, and possibly Status bar (on a Mac). The items under the line at the bottom of the Window>Palettes menu.

Other things like Profile Manager, Solid Element Operations, etc, also aren't included in the Palette Scheme.

Crazy, but true!

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Quick Layers Palette ... wont stick with WE

owen — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 03:12:01 GMT

jeez .. palettes that aren't palettes

cheers. i suspected some crazy logic like that but i had my fingers crossed

Re: Quick Layers Palette ... wont stick with WE

__archiben — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 02:07:24 GMT

Link wrote:
So it's visibility is not stored with a Palette Scheme.

. . . but it's position is. more crazy graphisoft logic.

what you can do, and what i do myself, is add the quicklayers commands to a toolbar (or create a toolbar specifically for them). toolbars are saved fully into the palettes scheme in the work environment. the buttons on a toolbar are slightly smaller than on the quicklayers palette-that-isn't, but you soon get used to it . . .

~/archiben

Re: Quick Layers Palette ... wont stick with WE

owen — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 02:22:53 GMT

~/archiben wrote:
Link wrote:
So it's visibility is not stored with a Palette Scheme.
. . . but it's position is. more crazy graphisoft logic.

yeah i had noticed the hole it left ... well i guess they cant be expected to remember everything right

~/archiben wrote:
what you can do, and what i do myself, is add the quicklayers commands to a toolbar (or create a toolbar specifically for them). toolbars are saved fully into the palettes scheme in the work environment. the buttons on a toolbar are slightly smaller than on the quicklayers palette-that-isn't, but you soon get used to it . . .

done ... thanks for the tip!

Re: Quick Layers Palette ... wont stick with WE

Anonymous — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 11:07:12 GMT

Hello,

It is necessary to do the same with the palette "active layer", but I do not find the way to do it.

Greetings,
Gabriel.

Re: Quick Layers Palette ... wont stick with WE

Link — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 11:24:32 GMT

It is necessary to do the same with the palette "active layer", but I do not find the way to do it.

This may help...

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Quick Layers Palette ... wont stick with WE

Anonymous — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 11:29:51 GMT

Link thanks. The solution that you propose activates the palette, but there is no form to place the 2 buttons of the palette like icons.

Greetings,
Gabriel.

Re: Quick Layers Palette ... wont stick with WE

Link — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 11:34:32 GMT

Nope - no such luck I'm afraid.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Quick Layers Palette ... wont stick with WE

Dave Jochum — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:48:11 GMT

Link wrote:
According to Graphisoft terminology, the Quick Layers palette is not officially a palette. So it's visibility is not stored with a Palette Scheme...Crazy, but true!

Still the case with 13. Can someone from GS explain this?? How can this be either so tough to program or just ignored all these years? Ditto for Element Info and the others. Good grief.

Re: Quick Layers Palette ... wont stick with WE

Karl Ottenstein — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:14:19 GMT

Dave wrote:
Link wrote:
According to Graphisoft terminology, the Quick Layers palette is not officially a palette. So it's visibility is not stored with a Palette Scheme...Crazy, but true!
Still the case with 13. Can someone from GS explain this?? How can this be either so tough to program or just ignored all these years? Ditto for Element Info and the others. Good grief.

Yeah, it is unfortunate. I believe the explanation that I heard was that the problem is that Quick Layers is an add-on, and add-on palette positions can not stored in the WE.

Maybe someone from GS will confirm or pass on the real story for you.

Cheers,
Karl

Re: Quick Layers Palette ... wont stick with WE

owen — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:04:18 GMT

Karl wrote:
Yeah, it is unfortunate. I believe the explanation that I heard was that the problem is that Quick Layers is an add-on, and add-on palette positions can not stored in the WE.

Of course this just raises the question of WHY don't add-on palette positions get stored in the WE?

I imagine this is a bit of a pain in the a*** for Cadimage Suite users?

Re: Quick Layers Palette ... wont stick with WE

Anonymous — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:08:35 GMT

Can you not just create a custom Quick Layer toolbar, just as Ben suggested in 2006? The buttons look a bit different, but the functionality is identical.

Re: Quick Layers Palette ... wont stick with WE

Anonymous — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:11:32 GMT

A little off the point but may fall under the same subject - I would like to add the offset action found within the Controls Palette onto my custom toolboxes for my WE template. I haven't figured any success beyond adding the "Show Controls Box" icon to my toolboxes. I found the command tag but it had that shared blue arrow (shares with Multiple Offset) and it had no function at all. I see that the Parallel, Perpendicular and Angle Bisector Constraints can be individually added to my custom toolbox but not the offset actions? Just looking for confirmation or a work around here. Thanks!

Re: Quick Layers Palette ... wont stick with WE

Link — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:30:27 GMT

ksymons19 wrote:
A little off the point but may fall under the same subject - I would like to add the offset action found within the Controls Palette onto my custom toolboxes for my WE template. I haven't figured any success beyond adding the "Show Controls Box" icon to my toolboxes. I found the command tag but it had that shared blue arrow (shares with Multiple Offset) and it had no function at all. I see that the Parallel, Perpendicular and Angle Bisector Constraints can be individually added to my custom toolbox but not the offset actions? Just looking for confirmation or a work around here. Thanks!

Try it again with your control box visible. You should see that clicking on it toggles between off/offset/multiple offset.

Works here in AC13. You're not trying to use it like in AutoCAD are you?

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Quick Layers Palette ... wont stick with WE

Anonymous — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:31:33 GMT

I used it all the time while with a previous firm. I loved it for both 2D and 3D elements (mostly walls). I would just splash a magic wand and then offset an entire path.

But my current firm has custom toolbars and do not use the Control Box palette. A few functions of the CB palette (perpendicular, special snap, angle bisector) are on the custom toolbar based off the Drafting Aids toolbox. But the offset one is not and I wanted to see if that tool/action is still functional with the CB palette off and be added to the custom toolboxes. Otherwise I may have to re-do an entire portion of the user interface to be based more off the Control Box than Drafting Aids.

Re: Quick Layers Palette ... wont stick with WE

Link — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:36:24 GMT

Sure, well it works just fine. When you add it to your new toolbar, select it from the alphabetical list of commands in the WE.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Quick Layers Palette ... wont stick with WE

Chazz — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:03:46 GMT

A keyboard shortcut to invoke the QuickLayer palette has calmed most of my frustration with this absurd shortcoming.

More annoying for me is that WE does not remember the internal partitioning of palettes in places the Layers palette and the Organizer palette. I thought this was silly when they introduced dragable partitions in 12, but to have the same lameness in 13 is sort of insulting.

Re: Quick Layers Palette ... wont stick with WE

Anonymous — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:17:49 GMT

I'm experience a similar thing with QL palette. It´s there but it´s dead. Especially after switching between app´s. I have to switch it off and then on again.

Re: Quick Layers Palette ... wont stick with WE

Anonymous — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 15:43:50 GMT

Quick layers Palette in AC14 still has problems. A week ago the last 2 icons on the right side were cutted out.