topic Re: Fills in Archicad. How to do this?! in Project data & BIM

Fills in Archicad. How to do this?!

Anonymous — Tue, 30 May 2023 10:55:38 GMT

How can I have fills that are placed inside wall layers, are automaticly alinged with endlines, can create custom fills and apply them to any layer

Re: Fills in Archicad. How to do this?!

Dwight — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 23:42:52 GMT

Composite Walls seem to answer your issue.

Options> Element Attributes.

Re: Fills in Archicad. How to do this?!

Anonymous — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:37:06 GMT

No thats not the answer.
Read carefully

Re: Fills in Archicad. How to do this?!

TomWaltz — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 01:14:15 GMT

Mario wrote:
No thats not the answer.
Read carefully

You don't give him much to go on. This is the second time today I've seen you ask that question and I still have no idea what you are trying to do.

Re: Fills in Archicad. How to do this?!

Dwight — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 01:59:31 GMT

Mario wrote:
No thats not the answer.
Read carefully

It might be easier to understand if you could spell.

Re: Fills in Archicad. How to do this?!

__archiben — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 02:04:56 GMT

Mario wrote:
No thats not the answer.

yes it is. read your manual. carefully.

Re: Fills in Archicad. How to do this?!

Anonymous — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:59:51 GMT

O.k.
First look at the pic. I posted previously.
There you see 2 very known fills, thermoisolation (green) and parquet (orange). This drawing is crated in Autocad and its a cutaway of a RC slab with fills that come above the RC core.
If I was to have a slab like this one in AC, yes, I would go to Options>ElementAttributes>Composites and then define my own material, skins, their thickness...Theres no problem here
But since there are no such patterns (thermoisolation, parquete...) in AC, I decided to go and make my own. So I read the manual and started drawing my custom pattern ( eg. Thermoisolation) that I would apply to one of the skins in my composite slab.
When I was finished I selected the pattern, hit copy, went to fill types, new, selected symbol fill, then pasted the pattern I draw previously.
Thers no problem here.
The problem is that the pattern I draw is never alinged inside its skin.
Look at the pic. attached.
You see a cut thru an RC slab. On the right you see the fill I created so that it matches the layer thickness ( 5cm) in the slab.
The pattern is seamless but how to put it in the right position? Look at the blue cross

Re: Fills in Archicad. How to do this?!

Anonymous — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:03:22 GMT

You can't have an composite fill to fit exactly in a composite if you don't draw your wall/slab etc. at exact right place.
Else you have to do this manually with 2d tools.

Re: Fills in Archicad. How to do this?!

Anonymous — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:59:56 GMT

Mario wrote:
No thats not the answer.
Read carefully

so clever!

Re: Fills in Archicad. How to do this?!

Anonymous — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:14:33 GMT

xristina wrote:
Mario wrote:
No thats not the answer.
Read carefully
so clever!

Yes it is, and you could post more clever comments that would help others and not waste their time with stupid comments like yours:)
So if you can help, please do so, otherwise dont post here couse I dont want this thread to turn into something not helpfull for me and others users.
Hope this wasnt waste of your time

Re: Fills in Archicad. How to do this?!

Dwight — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:22:59 GMT

Mario wrote:
No thats not the answer.
Read carefully

Postings like the one above are the kind what cause unrest.

Re: Fills in Archicad. How to do this?!

TomWaltz — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:34:12 GMT

Mario wrote:
No thats not the answer.
Read carefully

Try WRITING more carefully.

Mario wrote:
xristina wrote:
Mario wrote:
No thats not the answer.
Read carefully
so clever!
Yes it is, and you could post more clever comments that would help others and not waste their time with stupid comments like yours:)
So if you can help, please do so, otherwise dont post here couse I dont want this thread to turn into something not helpfull for me and others users.
Hope this wasnt waste of your time

you ruined that as soon as you posted a half a question and expected us to all try to guess what you meant. Obviously your time is too valuable to work out a complete question to ask the rest of us.

The others are right. Composite walls could fix your rotation problem. A user manual (or maybe just reading the on-screen options) is a wonderful thing, especially when it's used once in a while. If you don't want to do any learning on your own, don't expect us to spoon feed you.

Re: Fills in Archicad. How to do this?!

Richard Morrison — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:31:35 GMT

I don't think the question was all that unclear...

But regardless, the short answer is that you can't have a scalable fill with an adjustable origin point in a composite structure.

Your options are to:
1) Use a different type of fill that doesn't depend on origins.
2) Draw it as an empty fill, and apply a 2D fill over the top later. I might mention that there are some LINETYPES that may work better for this than a fill (see the 3.5" batt linetype in the standard template file). Unfortunately, you can't use such a linetype in a composite structure, but they are very fast to add afterwards. The composite structure will give you snapping points, too.

Re: Fills in Archicad. How to do this?!

Anonymous — Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:21:46 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
Composite walls could fix your rotation problem. A user manual (or maybe just reading the on-screen options) is a wonderful thing, especially when it's used once in a while.

Rotation?"#$%& Who, what, where
Composite walls might fix my problem?! Man, are you o.k.?

the short answer is that you can't have a scalable fill with an adjustable origin point in a composite structure

Thank you Richard. All is clear now

Re: Fills in Archicad. How to do this?!

Anonymous — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:05:47 GMT

O.k.
I created my own pattern that I applyed over an empty slab fill. The problem now is that I canot control the position of the fills pattern. Like, lets say that I would like that my pattern starts at red point.
Can this be done?
Thanx!

Re: Fills in Archicad. How to do this?!

Anonymous — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:14:58 GMT

Sorry for asking but what is the meaning of creating your own patterns, as cut fills, when you absolutly dont have any control, what so ever, in their futher editing.
I understand in using them as some 2d fills for floors, roofs, as tile patterns, but for cut fills, where you need accuracy, size and placement control, give me a break

Re: Fills in Archicad. How to do this?!

Eduardo Rolon — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 04:22:29 GMT

You can control were your fills start.

If you search in the help section under "Fill Origin" you can read all about it…

This answers your previous post. HTH

Re: Fills in Archicad. How to do this?!

Anonymous — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 07:15:05 GMT

Control of the Fill's origin is the easiest thing to do in AC.

But unless you are a medium you have to read the manual to learn how.

Or ask the Fotm users more politely!

Reading your posts makes me feel like being in a teenage chat-room!

Re: Fills in Archicad. How to do this?!

Anonymous — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 08:06:03 GMT

Don't use such fills for insulation symbol.
It makes just trouble. Waste of time!
There are many alternatives for insulation symbols.

Re: Fills in Archicad. How to do this?!

Anonymous — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:11:33 GMT

Thanx guys for helping me out.
My apologies on my rude behaviour It wasnt right. Hope I will help you sometimes. Still learnig and yes, maybe a little to much inpatient
Chakra master, my apologies