topic Re: Folders occur as layers...AC crash...please assist! in Project data & BIM

Folders occur as layers...AC crash...please assist!

Mats_Knutsson — Tue, 30 May 2023 11:02:18 GMT

Phew....

A client has a layer list on their AC-project that contains three folders! They look like this "K\:blabla\blabla|" . Three different folders of which one of them is the clients and the other two probably from another source (they must come from a dwg file which is xreffed into one of the xreffed dwg's in AC...do you follow?).

This causes severe problems with AC quitting on reload of xrefs and Plotmaker quits when trying to update. Obviously I'm very grateful if someone has a clue?

Re: Folders occur as layers...AC crash...please assist!

Mats_Knutsson — Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:17:38 GMT

Working like crazy on this...
The folders appearing in the layer list are folders from the servers where x-reffed drawings are stored. They have absolute search paths and results from poor dwg-management. Even in the dwg-file they point to a server on another company with which there is no connection. So they are actually totally redundant even in the dwg-file. My question then is why AC puts them into the layer list when i x-ref the faulty dwg-file?

Re: Folders occur as layers...AC crash...please assist!

Mats_Knutsson — Tue, 28 Feb 2006 21:40:12 GMT

Oki...
Got rid of every dwg xref...purged layers...file looking good and clean...trying to import the .pln in Plotmaker and bang I'm thrown out. Saved the .pln as v8.1 and could import it in Plotmaker....duh??? Me getting tired!!!
Whazzup?

Re: Folders occur as layers...AC crash...please assist!

__archiben — Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:13:38 GMT

i'm not sure that i'm completely following you . . . are you saying that all layers belonging to an x-ref appear in archiCAD's layer list as a 'folder'? if so, that's a feature we've been waiting for, no?!

~/archiben

Re: Folders occur as layers...AC crash...please assist!

Mats_Knutsson — Tue, 28 Feb 2006 23:27:17 GMT

~/archiben wrote:
i'm not sure that i'm completely following you . . . are you saying that all layers belonging to an x-ref appear in archiCAD's layer list as a 'folder'? if so, that's a feature we've been waiting for, no?!

~/archiben

Well...I don't follow myself even...too tired...

Background:
The client couldn't reload the x-reffed dwg's in the .plp-file, they got thrown out. In plotmaker same thing happened as soon as they tried to update a drawing.

My first attempt:
Looking at the layer list in the .plp-file. It contained 4 strange layers:

$AUDIT-BAD-LAYER
k:/projects/manno/a/
m:/45533/model/050403/
q:/cad/projects/

The first one is coming from one of the x-reffed dwg's and it's the result of a ACAD recovery I guess.

The latter 3 are folder names! that has been interpreted as layer names and comes from the x-reffed dwg's. They are x-refs in the dwg-file pointing to dwg-files on servers from other consultants. They all have absolute search paths. (see attach. beolw)

So my client has been x-reffing dwg's in his dwg which is x-reffed into a good ol' ArchiCAD teamwork project. He should of course not work with his dwg-files like that. There should be no x-refs pointing to other consultants servers that he can't reach anyway. I asked the client to remove the x-refs from the dwg-file since they were redundant. Problem still remained though...

I have tried pretty much everything and finally took away all the x-refs in the teamwork file and resaved it as a .pln with another name. I deleted all "strange" layers and ended up with a simple AC project. I tried to create a new .lbk from default settings and when I try to import from the .pln-file...poff and I'm out. No error message.

After lots of useless efforts I saved the .pln-file as a version 8.1 file and guess what ...I could import the file into plotmaker as usual.

I even saved the file with all the strange layers and faulty xrefs as a 8.1 project and it worked... Therefore I'm not sure the problem is because of the dwg-files...but with AC. Any idea?? Something is wrong with the AC9 .pln file. I can of course make a new project and import it in PM...

I'm pretty frustrated since this is just weird! I have no idea why it's not working........it there was an avatar for crying and tearing my hair I would use it now!

Mats

Re: Folders occur as layers...AC crash...please assist!

__archiben — Tue, 28 Feb 2006 23:38:58 GMT

Mats_Knutsson wrote:
I even saved the file with all the strange layers and faulty xrefs as a 8.1 project and it worked...

it sounds like an AC9 bug to me. i'm pretty under-whelmed by archiCAD 9's DWG handling . . . if 8.1 works for you use that i guess.

sorry i can be no more help . . .

~/archiben

Re: Folders occur as layers...AC crash...please assist!

Mats_Knutsson — Tue, 28 Feb 2006 23:44:16 GMT

~/archiben wrote:
Mats_Knutsson wrote:
I even saved the file with all the strange layers and faulty xrefs as a 8.1 project and it worked...
it sounds like an AC9 bug to me. i'm pretty under-whelmed by archiCAD 9's DWG handling . . . if 8.1 works for you use that i guess.

sorry i can be no more help . . .

~/archiben

Well it doesn't work even with the .pln where all dwg-stuff (layers, xrefs...) is deleted!
Thanks for helping anyway!