topic Re: The world should rotate around my project! in Project data & BIM

The world should rotate around my project!

Anonymous — Tue, 30 May 2023 11:01:26 GMT

Don't we all feel that the world should bend, and revolve our project? I think so to. . .
I'll cut to the chase. . .I've usually been setting up my projects with the main or ground floor and level 1, and then I use the layer settings to set up my foundation at level -1, and I've been putting my plot or site plan in at level -2. Usually, I just cut and paste what I need from the foundation for a 'footprint' on my site plan, and just shove it over way off from my elevation and section lines. Here lately however, I've been thinking. . .doesn't ArchiCAD have an option that allows me to change where north is? What if I wanted to draw my lot on level -2 directly underneath my foundation plan, so that if I change my foundation, I don't have to cut and paste for every change? Is there a setting that would allow me to say that up on my screen isn't north. . .this time up is N 89D 48' 32" E? Or even better perhaps a library part that allows me to simply rotate the North arrow in my project? I know that this can be done in the sun settings dialog, but am I the only one that thinks that a bit easier 'orientation' (for lack of a better word) might be a great idea?

And. . .for those of you that say, "Bah! Just cut and paste man. . .it's not so bad. . ." I DID cut and paste a lot in a CAD program once. . .it was called AutoCAD. . .

Re: The world should rotate around my project!

Thomas Holm — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 21:54:06 GMT

Is there a setting that would allow me to say that up on my screen isn't north. . .

Maybe I misunderstood you, but both under Camera adn Perspective settings, there's a button called More Sun or something, and there you set Project North (I'm at home, maybe I remember wrong, but it's definitely there somewhere...

Re: The world should rotate around my project!

Anonymous — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:07:03 GMT

Yes, I have used this setting in the past, I was just curious if there was a more stream-lined process for this.

Re: The world should rotate around my project!

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 00:24:00 GMT

Thomas,

Yes, the north arrow settings are accessed through the "3D Projection Settings" by clicking the button "More Sun". I have always found this a strange place for an important setting, but since it only needs to be done once per project it has never bothered me too much.

Chad,

I don't understand your need to cut and paste things between your Floor Plans, Foundation Plans and Site Plans (at least not as a standard practice - I do it often for occasional needs). This has somehow to do with project north?

Re: The world should rotate around my project!

Richard Morrison — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:23:59 GMT

Another good approach is to create the site plan in another PLN file, and hot link the floor plan as a module. And it makes it a little easier to use decimal dimensions from the surveyor in the site plan, when the main floor plan is using feet & inches.

Re: The world should rotate around my project!

Aussie John — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:48:24 GMT

Copy and pasting part of your plan to another storey=BAD, BAD BAD
SAve a view set from the storey in question and place with the 2nd storey in the layout. If you feel the need, you want you could rotate there.
To see your plotview in CAD use the ghost storey settings.
Well Thats my way of doing it. This technique works well for using another storey for your ceiling plans insteasd of lots of extra layers.

Re: The world should rotate around my project!

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:21:16 GMT

Another method I am playing with for site plans and north orientation for layout purposes is rotating the site plan to north in the layout book and adding site plan specific notes in the layout book versus in the site plan view. Advantages of this is I don't need a separate file for my site and don't have to deal with linked modules. Since I have all the noting tools available in my layout book and snaps are enabled I can place these notes without issue. The biggest obstacle is layer management. I am hoping some day that layout sheets can reference layer combinations. I have resorted to drawing layout related items (masters) on the Archicad layer if I never need to control their visibility. On the one project where I rotated the site and noted in the layout I also put my notes on the Archicad layer to prevent the possibility of the a note layer being turned off during output.

Re: The world should rotate around my project!

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 16:11:37 GMT

Matthew wrote:
Chad,

I don't understand your need to cut and paste things between your Floor Plans, Foundation Plans and Site Plans (at least not as a standard practice - I do it often for occasional needs). This has somehow to do with project north?

I use a custom library part for my surveyor line annotations. I can just drop this object, rotate, and stretch it, and I have an automatic annotation for my boundary lines. i.e. S 0D 31' 1" W 79.89' is generated automatically; thus if I simply rotate my Plot to match my project, my automatic data would change, so I wanted an easier way to rotate the world around my project. I am aware of the More Sun dialog, and I was simply curious if there was an easier and *GASP* productive way of doing this.

Re: The world should rotate around my project!

Brad Elliott — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:33:35 GMT

Re: The world should rotate around my project!

Stress Co_ — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:36:05 GMT

chad.lawson wrote:
Or even better perhaps a library part that allows me to simply rotate the North arrow in my project?

I know there is a North Arrow library part that rotates to "North" as set in the 3D settings..... But it doesn't work the other way around.

Where did you get your custom survey line "part"?

Re: The world should rotate around my project!

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:56:53 GMT

This is the one that I use, I purchased it from Objects Online.

Note: I haven't fully tested it on ArchiCAD 10 extensively, but I haven't had any trouble with the tool at all. It seems to migrate seamlessly into version 10.

Re: The world should rotate around my project!

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:57:23 GMT

Stress wrote:
Where did you get your custom survey line "part"?

It could be the one I was passing around about three years ago. The name was "Survey Dim ML7.gsm" The ML7 part is my initials plus the AC version number. I haven't updated since, but it still works.

Anyone who is interested in receiving a copy, please send a PM with your e-mail address and I will send along the PLA. It is about 1.5MB and includes instructions.

EDIT: I see that it's not my old one, and the Objects Online one has more features. I'm still happy to send along the freebie to anyone who wants it.

Re: The world should rotate around my project!

Link — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:58:08 GMT

Marc said:

I know there is a North Arrow library part that rotates to "North" as set in the 3D settings.....

Due to popular demand (from people just like you! ) that is available in the standard AC10 North Symbol 10 library part. It now has the parameter 'Follow Project North' that sets it. Yay!

Chad said:

This is the one that I use, I purchased it from Objects Online.

That's Daniel's part and is very user friendly, as are all of his parts!

Cheers!

Link.