topic Re: ArchiCAD 27 - MEP Modeler - MEP Elements DO NOT appear in schedules in Project data & BIM

ArchiCAD 27 - MEP Modeler - MEP Elements DO NOT appear in schedules

JoeA — Wed, 04 Oct 2023 18:34:47 GMT

It appears that MEP elements, (i.e. ductwork, piping, etc.) in ArchICAD 27 "New & Enhanced" MEP Modeler is not able to be scheduled. This is the case for ANYTHING inserted in the model from the MEP menu.

So much for utilizing the "I" in BIM...

Disappointed,

Joe A.

ArchiCAD since 8.0

Re: ArchiCAD 27 - MEP Modeler - MEP Elements DO NOT appear in schedules

Oleksandra Vakariuk — Tue, 10 Oct 2023 10:56:21 GMT

Hi Joe,

Some functionality around the renewed MEP Modeler, including scheduling, was not included in the release version due to time constraints. It will be available in Archicad 27 Update 2.

Kind regards,

Re: ArchiCAD 27 - MEP Modeler - MEP Elements DO NOT appear in schedules

JoeA — Tue, 10 Oct 2023 20:54:55 GMT

That is certainly unfortunate as it leaves us in a position without a viable work around; Pre-27 MEP models are not compatible and 27 MEP models provide no usable data.

Q: Should we shut down MEP operations for three months and await a functioning product?

Waiting for ArchiCAD 27 Update 2 to be released is akin to having a vehicle delivered without brakes in the initial release!

Befuddled & Confounded,

Joe A.

ArchiCAD since 8.0

Re: ArchiCAD 27 - MEP Modeler - MEP Elements DO NOT appear in schedules

JasonMacquet — Tue, 05 Dec 2023 20:56:29 GMT

Is there any indication as to when Archicad 27 Update 2 will be released?

Re: ArchiCAD 27 - MEP Modeler - MEP Elements DO NOT appear in schedules

AlexNader81 — Tue, 23 Jan 2024 02:40:09 GMT

THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE

Re: ArchiCAD 27 - MEP Modeler - MEP Elements DO NOT appear in schedules

Robbie — Sun, 04 Feb 2024 21:57:57 GMT

@JoeA I have update 27.1.2 installed now, but I still don't see any MEP elements in the scheduler?

Re: ArchiCAD 27 - MEP Modeler - MEP Elements DO NOT appear in schedules

AlexNader81 — Sun, 04 Feb 2024 22:00:51 GMT

as stated on a previous post on this thread, fix is expected for AC 27 Update 2, so 27.2.
Not there yet but fingers crossed for the next one.

Re: ArchiCAD 27 - MEP Modeler - MEP Elements DO NOT appear in schedules

Robbie — Sat, 10 Feb 2024 12:03:08 GMT

I've installed update 2 and it appears that MEP elements are back in schedules! A word of caution though - the newly defined pipe or duct "routes" do not report their length, so we still have to go into the route dialog and set the element ID of the individual segments for them to sum correctly as a single quantity. This misses out the length of elbows, etc. so you can add new property in Property Manager such as "pipe_length" for example, add an expression to capture the individual lengths of segments, elbows, etc., and report the new property in the schedule instead.

Re: ArchiCAD 27 - MEP Modeler - MEP Elements DO NOT appear in schedules

hevi — Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:54:33 GMT

Its unbelievable how hard it seem to be for GS to take a system approach to buildings. So now we have these routes which are somewhat nicely connected but we can't really schedule or label the route as such let alone the whole system - just the segments?