topic Re: Complex Profile element duplicates - BUG? in Project data & BIM

Complex Profile element duplicates - BUG?

__archiben — Sun, 14 Jan 2024 22:25:00 GMT

Hi all,

I wanted to bump this topic: https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Project-data-BIM/Multiple-entries-for-the-same-beam-profile/td-p/307888/page/2 but it appears locked so I can't reply over there.

I am having the exact same issue, (AC27 4030): essentially all of my Complex Profile elements are being scheduled twice. I am trying to create an A1-A3 carbon emissions schedule so cannot have the scheduler double-counting elements - it inflates my carbon footprint! 'Merge Items' does not work: it hides the duplicates but still schedules twice the amount that I have in reality.

Before you ask: I have double checked, triple checked and more: I absolutely do not have duplicate elements in the model. Interestingly, if I assign a unique ID to each element, this ID is NOT assigned to the ghost duplicate (see attached screenshot). If I use the scheduler's selection tool to select in 3D and delete ONE of the ghost elements it deletes both entries...

Clearly quite a critical bug and I am surprised this is still hanging around from the original post back in 2021. Any advice or input from others experiencing similar?

~/BF

Re: Complex Profile element duplicates - BUG?

Barry Kelly — Thu, 11 Jan 2024 07:27:04 GMT

Can you show your schedule criteria?

I am wondering if it has something to do with the beam / beam segment both being scheduled.

You really only want one or the other.

Barry.

Re: Complex Profile element duplicates - BUG?

__archiben — Thu, 11 Jan 2024 19:04:34 GMT

Thanks - that was exactly it. I heard back from GS overnight with the same. Quick question - before I dive in to investigating myself - would this be the same for all assembly-type elements that have their own sub-elements, i.e. Stairs, Railings and Curtain Walls?

I don't actually understand the logic of this. I get why being able to schedule sub-elements could be important, but surely scheduling the parent element should automatically exclude its own sub-elements so as not to double count by accident? Hungarian logic?

Thanks again,

~/BF

Re: Complex Profile element duplicates - BUG?

Mahmoud Qenawi — Fri, 12 Jan 2024 08:13:07 GMT

Despite it's another question which should be in different post but here is the answer for it.

https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Graphisoft-Insights/Tip-of-the-Month-November-2023-Exclude-sub-elements-from/ba-p/581433

Re: Complex Profile element duplicates - BUG?

stefan — Thu, 04 Apr 2024 09:29:11 GMT

That tip has quite a cumbersome workaround. You can simply filter out the "Beam Segment" and "Column Segment" and similar using the Element Type as a filter in your schedule criteria.

Re: Complex Profile element duplicates - BUG?

__archiben — Thu, 04 Apr 2024 20:56:35 GMT

That is exactly what I ended up doing Stefan. I still have the 'how-can-this-possibly-be-what-I-want' reaction. It should never double count by default, only if it's told to...

~/BF