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New community Roadmap - missing Idea pool?

Karel Landa — Thu, 02 Jan 2025 15:17:05 GMT

Hi,

I've noticed that a conversion of Roadmap from previous website to community is (almost) done? During testing it I've noticed that there is missing section of "Idea pool".

Also, many items from previous website are missing. Is this a work in progress state? Will the items be added?
Otherwise it is looking good 💪

The mentioned section from previous website:

Kind regards
Karel

Re: New community Roadmap - missing Idea pool?

Noemi Balogh — Thu, 03 Oct 2024 12:49:16 GMT

Hi Karel,

The current version of the roadmap is the up-to-date version. Some items were removed by the Product Team, that's why they are missing. Also, based on feedback we removed the Idea pool status and technically "merged" with the Under research status, as these two were basically identical from customer point of view.

Kind regards,
Noémi

Re: New community Roadmap - missing Idea pool?

mthd — Fri, 04 Oct 2024 06:37:53 GMT

Just to clarify, what is actually in the coming soon list ? Is that up to date or is it still under construction ?

Re: New community Roadmap - missing Idea pool?

Noemi Balogh — Fri, 04 Oct 2024 06:42:24 GMT

What is in 'Coming soon' is something planned to be released within this year (since most of them are BIMx or BIMcloud related items, the release cycles are different). The whole Product roadmap is up-to-date currently.

Re: New community Roadmap - missing Idea pool?

mthd — Fri, 04 Oct 2024 06:58:09 GMT

Thank you for the clarification with the time period relating to this year only. I was looking at the road map list on the other web page and noticed the differences. Otherwise looking forward to AC29, that list on the community website is not fully populated for items that maybe be included in the next version of Archicad. Have to keep an eye on what is in progress that may actually become coming soon in the future.

Re: New community Roadmap - missing Idea pool?

Noemi Balogh — Fri, 04 Oct 2024 06:57:08 GMT

Can you please clarify me which other web page you're talking about? The link on graphisoft.com should link to the roadmap here, and I'm not aware of any other web page where we have roadmap information shared.

Re: New community Roadmap - missing Idea pool?

mthd — Fri, 04 Oct 2024 07:02:10 GMT

Yes I had it bookmarked in my browser. Please see this link below.

https://graphisoft.com/product-roadmap/coming-soon

Re: New community Roadmap - missing Idea pool?

hevi — Tue, 08 Oct 2024 11:19:18 GMT

For architecture there were around 120 items combined in idea pool and under research - now there is 8 under research. That's quite some removal including items like: split-level, more reference levels, project phasing, layers as a palette, multi-window/multi-view, enhanced intersections, door/window tool, improved terrain modelling, skin-by-skin design, centralised template management, attribute level undo - just to name a few interesting and urgently needed.

I'm not arguing that the roadmap constituted any kind of commitment from GS to these items but it is really hard to have any confidence in a process where things like that just happen. The roadmap was introduced less than two years ago with these items either under "active research" or being "worth future consideration" and now they are just removed - to what status? (yeye - I know, internal database, backlog and all that...)

And I don't agree with 'idea pool' and 'under research' being identical from an external point of view. Actually, roadmap 'idea pool' corresponds to wishlist 'under consideration' and the items should have been transferred there rather than removed. It shows what development GS deem feasible and fitting for AC. It gives us a picture of what AC could and aim to be for us to compare with our needs when deciding on future investments. High voted items getting stuck here for long indicates misalignment between GS and user priorities. The status being currently empty basically tells us that GS doesn't have a grounded vision for the future of AC.

Re: New community Roadmap - missing Idea pool?

mthd — Fri, 04 Oct 2024 08:56:12 GMT

@hevi wrote: “For architecture there were around 120 items combined in idea pool and under research - now there is 8 under research. That's quite some removal including items like: split-level, more reference levels, project phasing, display order in sections, layers as a palette, multi-window/multi-view, enhanced intersections, door/window tool, improved terrain modelling, skin-by-skin design, centralised template management, attribute level undo - just to name a few interesting and urgently needed.”

Dear Graphisoft, we really need these things above to be developed as a priority. Sure we can make wishes but that original roadmap was gold.

Re: New community Roadmap - missing Idea pool?

Akpocky — Fri, 04 Oct 2024 10:27:09 GMT

yes, The old roadmap have a lot of wished. multi monitor, Reinforcement Bar, Structural plan, and so on

Re: New community Roadmap - missing Idea pool?

James B — Fri, 04 Oct 2024 11:42:36 GMT

Just to clarify, the under research items means we are actively researching these, and in progress we are actively working on those. A number of items that were in the previous idea pool, have been moved to the in progress and under research - based on feedback.

The previous idea pool had no time frame, but it doesn't mean we won't do them - just they are not currently on our short term radar, as we focus on the other topics listed. The wish list can help raise those back into focus, as well as ratings to those in the under research section.

We expect to adjust these road map items as statuses change and we make progress, and also based on your continued feedback.

Re: New community Roadmap - missing Idea pool?

Barry Kelly — Fri, 04 Oct 2024 13:04:44 GMT

Centralised Attribute Management seems to have slipped off the roadmap altogether.

It was under research in the old roadmap.

Just forgotten or is it now no longer being looked at?

Barry.

Re: New community Roadmap - missing Idea pool?

mthd — Tue, 08 Oct 2024 03:26:09 GMT

Hi James, I was very impressed by the older roadmap and now I am very disappointed with the changes I see in the updated one. I would firmly recommend that the company stick closely to the original roadmap configuration. You had me on board for the future with Archicad with that older list. I hope you can reinstate it and stick to it because I think that was very well thought out in my opinion. I think the future of Archicad would be much brighter with those clear goals in mind.

Re: New community Roadmap - missing Idea pool?

jl_lt — Tue, 08 Oct 2024 04:53:44 GMT

Well, that was some serious spring cleaning!

Re: New community Roadmap - missing Idea pool?

jl_lt — Tue, 08 Oct 2024 04:49:51 GMT

But lets worry not! With their recently engineered money grabbing scheme, they will have the resources to fullfil each and everyone of our wishes.

Re: New community Roadmap - missing Idea pool?

hevi — Tue, 08 Oct 2024 07:30:41 GMT

The issue here is not what you do internally but how it looks from the outside. The constant reference to internal processes prompted by any inquiry into the future development doesn't induce any confidence in that AC has a future worth investing in - which I assume was the main goal of the roadmap/wishlist. Especially when we know what these internal processes has amounted to during the last few years. This is of course exacerbated by language where removal of 110 out of 120 is described as "some" and the remains as "a number". From the outside something actually happened here and let us hope that there is a better answer as to what than "oh don't worry it is all the same behind the curtains" - because that cut both ways...

Re: New community Roadmap - missing Idea pool?

mthd — Tue, 08 Oct 2024 07:49:45 GMT

Auto rotate in 90 degree increments is not enough for me to commit to AC29 at this stage. However based on the older list, I would have committed to it and kept on going but they dropped a big bomb shell. (SSA/FW discontinued from 2026). I am shell shocked now but I will see what is in the coming soon list next year and then make my final decision then.

Re: New community Roadmap - missing Idea pool?

jl_lt — Tue, 08 Oct 2024 17:27:54 GMT

All users have diferent needs, but in our case, there are ZERO ítems of the current minimalist roadmap that are of interest or usefulness to us.

Re: New community Roadmap - missing Idea pool?

Eric Milberger — Tue, 08 Oct 2024 22:59:39 GMT

Well said

Re: New community Roadmap - missing Idea pool?

Eric Milberger — Tue, 08 Oct 2024 23:02:07 GMT

I am going to split hairs also as these need to be discipline specific. Structural vs Architectural especially. So it can focus on client, us the professionals/

As An architect I want different things than a structural Engineer. Maybe focus on only the common things for a while.