topic Re: GDL editor AC27 far from being usable in GDL

GDL editor AC27 far from being usable

Piotr Dobrowolski — Thu, 26 Sep 2024 11:15:27 GMT

SInce 27 release I only played around with new GDL editor in 27, and did not put to the "production"...yet with new project i just tried...and it is far from being satisfactory. The lagging makes it impossible to use.

The lagging is not visible while editing one object, however such situation is kind of "non - existent" while doing somewhat "professionally" more complicated library. So starting from 2 opened objects the lagging starts, making new object while having the other 2 open...is pure waiting until something happens, having inaccessible script windows. Selecting takes ages. Switching between opened objects impossibly slow. I hope someone will review this implementation soon. in 27 with trying to use the "old" copy-paste methods with the "real" Code or Sublime (I use both - for different tasks) is a nightmare due to lagging.

Re: GDL editor AC27 far from being usable

scottjm — Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:55:46 GMT

We’ve also experienced the excruciating lag with the 27 GDL editor. I’ve even had it when I’ve only had a single object open.

I do hope this is on the backlog for some attention.

Re: GDL editor AC27 far from being usable

Piotr Dobrowolski — Thu, 28 Dec 2023 12:57:11 GMT

The problem is even while switching between scripts, it takes a moment while the syntax highlighting kicks in. the search content does not go between scripts, so it seems like all the scripts are running in separate processes of this Code-like implementation (actually called Monaco), so if having like 5 objects * 5 scripts (roughly) can make big number of processes 😞. But none of such lagging is visible in Code or SublimeText (and I tend to leave a lot of frequently used files open)

Re: GDL editor AC27 far from being usable

Oleksandra Vakariuk — Thu, 04 Jan 2024 12:41:19 GMT

Hi all,

I have reached out to you via private message, please help us investigate the issue by providing some additional information. Thank you!

Kind regards,

Re: GDL editor AC27 far from being usable

TooManyDucks — Tue, 23 Jan 2024 21:05:31 GMT

I've just started using the GDL editor in Archicad 27 and am already screaming at my screen. Every time I tap the enter key, the command I've just typed changes to a different one. When I type "del 2" that's exactly what I want, but if I tap enter then the editor autoINcorrects it to "define style {2}". Is there a way to turn off the "improvements"? I've only been writing GDL for 23 years. It would be more efficient to type script in Notepad then copy it into the editor.

Re: GDL editor AC27 far from being usable

Bruce — Thu, 04 Apr 2024 21:15:29 GMT

I've really liked the general updates to the editor. Line numbering and syntax highlighting are the two biggest improvements for me. However, I have some serious workability problems:

The cursor jumps around. I'll be typing a line, and the cursor will suddenly jump back partway. Because I'm typing, I don't notice and my code will be garbled. I find I generally have to re-type code 2 or 3 times before I get lucky and the cursor stays where it's supposed to. This is close to a deal breaker for me.
Two dialogs of the same script will navigate to the same place simultaneously. Pre-2027, I could open a script in the primary dialog, and the same script in a popout dialog, and navigate to two different parts of the script. This would allow me to refer to / copy from one part of the script to another without having to scroll up and down. This isn't possible in the new editor.
Screen jumps around. I'll be typing, and apart from the cursor jumping around, the screen (or the location of the script in the dialog) will jump. Again, this hampers workflow.
Not all fix named parameters are available in predictive listing.

The editor was long overdue for an upgrade, and this is a great start. Got some things to fix though.

Re: GDL editor AC27 far from being usable

Shin Kil — Sun, 14 Apr 2024 23:49:20 GMT

In my experience, a significant improvement in the laggy or slow GDL window issue occurs when you refrain from altering the scaling in your Windows 10/11 display settings, keeping it at 100%. While this limits adjustments to your workflow's "unsharpened" 2D and 3D settings, changing the scaling between 2D/3D and the GDL window likely introduces complications.

Note 1 : I'm using Dell P2721Q monitor set to 2560 x 1440 resolution with a 100% scale, using Quadro RTX 4000 GPU.

Note 2: As mentioned in other forums, using only 1 version of ArchiCAD also helps a lot with the speed.

Lemme know if this helps for others.

Re: GDL editor AC27 far from being usable

Hmooslechner — Mon, 15 Apr 2024 05:54:10 GMT

TooMayDucks mentioning is exact, what i would point at too.

@TooManyDucks schrieb:

.... Every time I tap the enter key, the command I've just typed changes to a different one. When I type "del 2" that's exactly what I want, but if I tap enter then the editor autoINcorrects it to "define style {2}". ...

juast one little other example "else"...

The auto-completing is very insuffizient. You can workaround if you type "esc" after each line you want really, but that cant be a real solution. But often used normal commands should not be "impro-worsened"

A wish on the edge of it all: Make some keyboard shortcuts to toggle between Masterscript - 2D-script - 3D-script and the normal paramners-List to get rid of the need to use the mouse for it.

Another "wish" os "suggestion":

Now i declare functions, then type "end" and after it, i type my new functions with "return" to keep some readable structure for me.

When writing a new function with:

"some name of new function":

do something

return

It should be created somewhere a list of these my new "functions" to jump directly to it and back easily - don't know if everyone here can understand my intention... Its way better now with the right overview, but it would be much better to get access directly with some sort of function-List..

Re: GDL editor AC27 far from being usable

TooManyDucks — Mon, 15 Apr 2024 05:44:47 GMT

"impro-worsened" is nice, but I prefer it in German "Schlimmverbessert". Let's just hope that the whole thing doesn't get kaputrepariert for version 28 😉

Re: GDL editor AC27 far from being usable

Hmooslechner — Mon, 15 Apr 2024 05:57:16 GMT

I like these "Wolperdinger" - words too. (Look for it in Google picture search). 😇

Re: GDL editor AC27 far from being usable

Hmooslechner — Mon, 15 Apr 2024 05:58:55 GMT

oh - i see now: "verschlimmbessert" is the exact word - sorry to correct you! 😎

Re: GDL editor AC27 far from being usable

Peter Baksa — Tue, 16 Apr 2024 13:47:45 GMT

Hi,

"else" (and similar keywords typically at end of line) will be fixed in AC28. "del 2" is still a problem, the easiest fix would be to accept suggestions only with the tab key, not enter.

The list of subroutines, macro calls, and special comments (surrounded with lines ! ===...) are available with the keyword shortcut ctrl-shift-g. These can be listed either in source code order (the default), or by category by adding : to the search field

Re: GDL editor AC27 far from being usable

TooManyDucks — Tue, 16 Apr 2024 22:16:32 GMT

It seems that Graphisoft has gone the way of so many other text editors by making autocorrect and suggestions for input the default setting. However, unlike Microsoft Office any my phone keyboard, there doesn't seem to be an option to turn it off. As I said in my original reply, I've been scripting in GDL for over 20 years and know (most of) what I need to write. The changes that have been made to the interface might make it more appealing to a novice who has never written a script and doesn't want to wade through the GDL manual, but they are extremely intrusive to an experienced user.

Can I suggest that Graphisoft include an option to turn off all the command suggestions and autocorrect? Having the ability to right click and insert the correct syntax for a command would save looking that up in the manual every time, but when that pops up all the time, it is very intrusive, and the autocorrect is actually counter-productive.

Re: GDL editor AC27 far from being usable

Davor P — Wed, 17 Apr 2024 00:30:54 GMT

Besides the slow performance on larger scripts, the main issue I have noticed is with placing the cursor inside of a selection. To reproduce - make a selection, few lines of code for example, then try to click within the selection to place the caret. Nothing happens, at least in my case. I can click and place caret outside of the selection without any issues and that's what I have to do first then go back and click where I actually wanted to type.
Another one is that adding multiple cursors doesn't let me do anything. I can place them and they are visible but if I type, nothing happens.

Re: GDL editor AC27 far from being usable

Shin Kil — Wed, 17 Apr 2024 04:35:45 GMT

Would you know if Graphisoft fixed "THEN" autocorrecting to "TREAD_THICKNESS" in AC28?

I find it strange that some of the most commonly used commands keep defaulting into something you rarely ever use.

Re: GDL editor AC27 far from being usable

Piotr Dobrowolski — Wed, 17 Apr 2024 09:03:29 GMT

"if...then...else" is the issue in all GDL syntax implementation either in SublimeText or in MS Code. It tries to kick in the whole 3 parts even if the else is typed in. But both in Code and Sublime, but in Sublime when the whole comand is typed in "ESC" kills the syntax helper, in Code if the comannd is typed full there is no altareation of what is typed... but changing else... to elipse is a "tip of a year" 😉

Sorry for not having time to do more testing with sleeper tool, a pile of work on my head.

My biggest problem is the slowness, and not passing the search between the scripts in the same file. The slowness is the syntax parser, so maybe a switch to "plain text" switch would do the trick, it would also be a workaround of the funny syntax "helps"

Re: GDL editor AC27 far from being usable

Ralf Homering — Tue, 25 Jun 2024 07:24:09 GMT

In my case it helped to set the scale factor to 100%. Thanks.

I'm using three Samsung at 2560x1440.

I posted this bug to the team and they are looking for a solution. Keep your fingers crossed.

Re: GDL editor AC27 far from being usable

Piotr Dobrowolski — Tue, 25 Jun 2024 07:34:38 GMT

haha... I cannot test it (100% scaling) since my resolution is UHD on 17` laptop screen...

seems to be another scaling "un-implementation" as with the properties formulas 😞

Re: GDL editor AC27 far from being usable

david_lozej — Fri, 20 Sep 2024 15:24:25 GMT

I just look AC28 and it is much worse. Scripting is so slow that is almost impossible. Just scrolling is at least 5 times slower.

Re: GDL editor AC27 far from being usable

Piotr Dobrowolski — Mon, 23 Sep 2024 15:13:05 GMT

The last finding: 2 copies od AC 28, in one of them 2 library parts open:

(nothing special - MVO globals for doors and windows - trying to find out a way to align the library that based on the old MVO with the newe MVO settings - so library was usable in older versions and 28)

And those 2 files are succesfully kiling the computer and making it a "helicopter" (100% processor usage) - the implementation of this open source variant of MS Code is unfortunately not good.

I wish there was a switch to either kill all bells and wistles...or a switch to the old editor. I do complicated edits outside AC & copy paste - and that seems not to change due to uselessness of the new editor. Now even the small and easy edits are impossible in bigger files.