topic Re: 3D view in GDL missing in student version? in GDL

3D view in GDL missing in student version?

Ingolf — Thu, 26 Sep 2024 11:12:54 GMT

I am a teacher of BIM in general and Archicad in special. Just now I teach "Scripting in Archicad". The problem is that we don't see the 3D View in the GDL script. I suspect it is a missing feature in the student version. Anyone who can confirm this?

Re: 3D view in GDL missing in student version?

runxel — Mon, 12 Feb 2024 14:02:52 GMT

No, everything is available in the EDU version.

You are just zoomed out a lot. I can see something small in there 😉

Re: 3D view in GDL missing in student version?

Ingolf — Mon, 12 Feb 2024 14:11:27 GMT

Thanks for a swift answer. But I don’t think so. I have tried to zoom in and to use the Zoom All button. But this doesn’t help.

Re: 3D view in GDL missing in student version?

runxel — Mon, 12 Feb 2024 14:16:04 GMT

Have you tried another object?

Also there might be errors in the 3D script, which will prevent the display of everything.

But speaking from experience and knowledge: there is no such constraint with the EDU version.

Re: 3D view in GDL missing in student version?

Ingolf — Mon, 12 Feb 2024 14:21:40 GMT

Yes. I have made several objects and tried some gs made objects as this chair. The 2D view works fine. But the 3D view is not visble. I have tried two different PCs. I will ask the BIM-students tomorrow if they too experience this.

Re: 3D view in GDL missing in student version?

Barry Kelly — Tue, 13 Feb 2024 01:59:20 GMT

I guess it depends on what you have scripted.

It looks to me, as runxel said, that you have something far from the origin.

Try the 'fit to window' button to see what shows up.

Barry.

Re: 3D view in GDL missing in student version?

Ingolf — Tue, 13 Feb 2024 04:49:08 GMT

Thank you Barry. I have both scripted myself and tried gs objects.
And have of course tried ‘fit in window’. I will ask my students to try the GDL 3D View today.

Re: 3D view in GDL missing in student version?

Barry Kelly — Tue, 13 Feb 2024 05:11:04 GMT

I assume you can see 3D in Archicad itself?

I have sometimes seen funny cropping or cutting appear in the 3D window.

Making it a free floating window (un-docking) helps when that happens to me.

Then fit to window.

Barry.

Re: 3D view in GDL missing in student version?

Ingolf — Tue, 13 Feb 2024 05:18:08 GMT

3D in ordinary Archicad works well. I will try undocking, thanks.

Re: 3D view in GDL missing in student version?

Ingolf — Tue, 13 Feb 2024 11:02:16 GMT

My BIM-students have all tried using the 3D View in the GDL editor. None of them could see the object. I assume it must be a limitation in the student version of the norwegian Archicad. That is a pity. It is much easier to create something when you have an idea where the local coordination system is. Agree?

Re: 3D view in GDL missing in student version?

Barry Kelly — Wed, 14 Feb 2024 01:56:19 GMT

This is odd.

My understanding is that the educational software is exactly the same as the commercial software.

It is the licence that determines if it is an educational file or a commercial one.

It should not affect the actual option/controls within Archicad.

Maybe this would be a good question to bring up with your local Archicad support.

They should be able to test the same in both the educational and commercial versions.

Barry.

Re: 3D view in GDL missing in student version?

Lingwisyer — Wed, 14 Feb 2024 02:41:25 GMT

Have you tried making a new object with just something simple like;

BLOCK 1,1,1

and seeing if that shows up in the 3D preview?

Re: 3D view in GDL missing in student version?

Ingolf — Wed, 14 Feb 2024 06:30:46 GMT

Thank you Barry. I have already posted a question to the Nordic BIM Group, I'll await an answer.

Re: 3D view in GDL missing in student version?

Ingolf — Wed, 14 Feb 2024 07:00:47 GMT

I have tried both very simple home made objects like a cube as you suggested, and gs objects. No trace of anything but a symbol in the 3D view in the GDL editor. Fit in Window doesn't help.

All the students experience the same problem. No visible object in the 3D View in the GDL editor.

Re: 3D view in GDL missing in student version?

Lingwisyer — Wed, 14 Feb 2024 08:23:02 GMT

@Hmooslechner is a teacher too and seems to do all of his coding under an EDU licence. ~~I cannot seem to tag him though...~~ Ah, he changed his username? Maybe he has some insight into what is going on.

Re: 3D view in GDL missing in student version?

Ingolf — Wed, 14 Feb 2024 11:46:53 GMT

It seems that there is a problem in the Norwegian version of Archicad (v26 and 27 at least). The Nordic BIM Group looks at the problem at this moment.

Re: 3D view in GDL missing in student version?

Hmooslechner — Wed, 14 Feb 2024 19:07:56 GMT

Works for me pretty fine - don't have this problem.

Re: 3D view in GDL missing in student version?

Ingolf — Wed, 14 Feb 2024 19:49:58 GMT

It is probably something in the Norwegian version of Archicad.

Re: 3D view in GDL missing in student version?

Ingolf — Fri, 05 Apr 2024 13:43:52 GMT

Now one of my BIM-students, Adrian Sørensen, has found it out. Probably something in the Norwegian version of the template. When in the GDL editor, you have to open Parallel Projection Settings and choose a random view. Then you will see the element in 3D View in GDL. Solved 😀

Re: 3D view in GDL missing in student version?

Barry Kelly — Thu, 04 Apr 2024 05:57:00 GMT

Thanks for letting us know the solution (I will mark it as solved).

I have also found if the 3D preview window is maximised (in TAB), that I sometimes get strange cutting planes cutting of the 3D model - never had it disappear completely though.

Un-docking (manually resizing the window so it is free-floating) seems to fix that.

Barry.