topic Re: Can I remove the outline of 3D text in my object? in GDL

Can I remove the outline of 3D text in my object?

JGoode — Tue, 24 Sep 2024 08:11:09 GMT

As the title says, is it possible to remove the outline around 3D text in the object? I'm trying to add a toggle to be able to show / hide the outline.

Thanks

Re: Can I remove the outline of 3D text in my object?

maurice100 — Fri, 10 May 2024 00:09:21 GMT

Not a direct answer. Convert the object to ~~mesh~~ morph and play with the Edge settings eg Hidden or soft.

You could have two separate layers to show the hard lines or no outline

Re: Can I remove the outline of 3D text in my object?

Barry Kelly — Fri, 10 May 2024 00:26:13 GMT

You mention adding a toggle, so I have moved the post to the GDL forum.

The 3D text object that comes default in the Graphisoft library just uses a 'TEXT' command in the 3D script.

So you can't turn the outline off.

You can however add a PEN command and set a very thin white pen (can't be pen 0 or -1).

You have labelled the post '3rd Party Objects'.

If it is a third party object, it may be scripted differently - but I doubt it, as I don't think there is an easy way to convert TEXT into a PRISM_.

Barry.

Re: Can I remove the outline of 3D text in my object?

AllanP — Sun, 12 May 2024 16:32:08 GMT

Magic, Alchemy and Incantations are required, when the moon is full and the wind is blowing from.....

PLACEGROUP ISECTGROUP{3}(Oversized_Block_Text_Is_Cut_From_Group, Text_Block_Group, 0, 0, 0, 1)

A thin white line becomes a wider white line in a pdf, so i don't use the white line trick.

ISECTGROUP
ISECTGROUP (g_expr1, g_expr2)

ISECTGROUP{2} (g_expr1, g_expr2, edgeColor, materialId, materialColor [, operationStatus])

ISECTGROUP{3} (g_expr1, g_expr2, edgeColor, materialId, materialColor [, operationStatus])
g_expr1: identifier of the base group.
g_expr2: identifier of the tool group.
edgeColor: the color of the new edge when it differs from 0.
materialId: the material of the new face when it differs from 0.
materialColor: the color of the new face when the materialId is 0 and it differs from 0.
operationStatus: status control of the operation.
operationStatus = j1, where each j can be 0 or 1.
j1: generated new edges will be invisible.

Example....

ThreeDeeText = "PLACE TEXT HERE" GROUP "Oversized_Block_Text_Is_Cut_From_Group" material "BLACK" ADD -1.500,-0.00500,-0.100 BLOCK 3.000,0.00399,0.200 DEL 1 ENDGROUP GROUP "Text_Block_Group" material "BLACK" pen 1 MODEL SOLID rotx 90 text 0.002,0,ThreeDeeText del 1 ENDGROUP PLACEGROUP ISECTGROUP{3}("Oversized_Block_Text_Is_Cut_From_Group", "Text_Block_Group", 0, 0, 0, 1)

Re: Can I remove the outline of 3D text in my object?

Barry Kelly — Fri, 10 May 2024 02:59:42 GMT

The old "Intersect the text from an oversized block" trick!

I like it. 😄

So the new code for the default 3D text object is ...

GROUP "Oversized_Block_Text_Is_Cut_From_Group" ADD -txt_len, -Elev_Txt_size, -txt_thk BLOCK txt_len*2,Elev_Txt_size*2,txt_thk*3 DEL 1 ENDGROUP !PLACEGROUP "Oversized_Block_Text_Is_Cut_From_Group" GROUP "Text_Block_Group" Text txt_thk,0,Elev_Txt_Str ENDGROUP !PLACEGROUP "Text_Block_Group" !! Text !! Material Elev_Txt_Mat add 0,0,Elev_Txt_Hgt+Elev_Txt_size*0.5 ROTy -incl_txt ROTx 90-roll_text if SYMB_MIRRORED=1 then mulx -1 endif pen 1 PLACEGROUP ISECTGROUP{3}("Oversized_Block_Text_Is_Cut_From_Group", "Text_Block_Group", 0, 0, 0, 1) del 1 del 1 del 1

It is a shame you can't just intersect the text with itself - that doesn't seem to work.

You must have something slightly bigger to intersect with the text.

Barry.

Re: Can I remove the outline of 3D text in my object?

Pertti Paasky — Fri, 10 May 2024 07:30:27 GMT

Hello JGoode.

Make a group "TEXT 3D" and then place it using CREATEGROUPWITHMATERIAL .

group "TEXT 3D"

_ _ _ _

endgroup

j1=0 ! replace pen,
j2=0 ! replace material,
j4=1 ! make edges invisible.
pen_=2 ! replacement pen index.
material_=0 ! replacement material index.
repl_directive = j1 + 2*j2 + 4*j3 + 8*j4
placegroup CREATEGROUPWITHMATERIAL ("TEXT 3D" , repl_directive, pen_, material_)

Re: Can I remove the outline of 3D text in my object?

Barry Kelly — Fri, 10 May 2024 07:51:16 GMT

@Pertti Paasky wrote:

Make a group "TEXT 3D" and then place it using CREATEGROUPWITHMATERIAL .

That is even easier.

I really should read through the reference manual again - I totally missed that one.

For those following along, the 3D text code can now be ...

GROUP "Text_Block_Group" Text txt_thk,0,Elev_Txt_Str ENDGROUP !PLACEGROUP "Text_Block_Group" !! Text !! Material Elev_Txt_Mat add 0,0,Elev_Txt_Hgt+Elev_Txt_size*0.5 ROTy -incl_txt ROTx 90-roll_text if SYMB_MIRRORED=1 then mulx -1 endif pen 1 PLACEGROUP CREATEGROUPWITHMATERIAL ("Text_Block_Group", 1*0 + 2*0 + 4*0 + 8*1, pen_numb, material_index) del 1 del 1 del 1

You could even add a parameter now to turn the invisible edges masking value on or off, which is exactly what JGoode wants.

Barry.

Re: Can I remove the outline of 3D text in my object?

AllanP — Tue, 21 May 2024 04:43:09 GMT

The reason i don't use the CREATEGROUPWITHMATERIAL command is because in acrobat you still get funny things happening with the text,

left size is the ISECTGROUP, right side is the CREATEGROUPWITHMATERIAL

it looks different from the text box, labels, etc.

at 100%

at 150%

at 200%

in 3D

its an acrobat thing....

Re: Can I remove the outline of 3D text in my object?

A_ Smith — Wed, 22 May 2024 21:40:52 GMT

Have you tried to create literally an empty group and add to it your 3D text in other group with addgroup{3} (....last parameter toggle line appearance) ?

Re: Can I remove the outline of 3D text in my object?

Lingwisyer — Thu, 23 May 2024 03:27:51 GMT

Could you use GLOB_VIEW_TYPE to toggle between the two methods?