topic Re: personalised Tread and Risers in Libraries & objects

personalised Tread and Risers

Anonymous — Thu, 02 Apr 2020 12:05:19 GMT

Trying to create RISERS in metal steels (with holes) & TREADS in a metal plate type surface.

Tried BIM library- no good - plus not sure how to edit these GDL files to fit.

thank you all..

Re: personalised Tread and Risers

Christophe Fortineau — Thu, 02 Apr 2020 12:29:20 GMT

Hello atfonit,

I think you should consider your projet cumber of polygons before modeling it like as build.
It might be very heavy to use !
I invite you to try with complex profiles into Options menu.

Re: personalised Tread and Risers

Anonymous — Thu, 02 Apr 2020 12:53:02 GMT

Thanks, fyi - the image is not my file but one I have saw online.

Tried with complex profiles editing an existing steel U beam. The only problem is how to create the holes in the complex profle as it's a section, holes in the section profile don't work. This is the RISER we are refering to. (Contramarche.)

The TREAD/marche, I can't seem to see how to have this metalled grilled pattern. I dont jsut want to change the surface - I want it so the material itself becomes a metal grated plate for the tread.

Re: personalised Tread and Risers

Christophe Fortineau — Thu, 02 Apr 2020 17:08:54 GMT

I do not modelise this kind of detail 😕
I think you have to do it with GDL !?
Or with SEO but it will be hard to model and even more to modify.

Re: personalised Tread and Risers

Barry Kelly — Fri, 03 Apr 2020 00:38:06 GMT

If you are using the stair object you can create custom risers and treads by converting one to a morph and then saving back as a tread or riser.

These may help - the focus on treads but I am sure the same can be done for risers.

https://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/knowledgebase/74260/

https://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/user-guide/88693/

The holes in the riser probably won't hurt the model (speed) too much.
But the mesh tread might.
I would use a surface material that has a mesh look with alpha channel so that it will render transparent but still be a single solid surface in Archicad.

Barry.

Re: personalised Tread and Risers

Anonymous — Fri, 03 Apr 2020 07:38:03 GMT

ThanKs Barry, yes have done the SAVE AS as riser / tread after convertinbg to Morph but cannot seem to create the hole in the steel, which was a complex profile (see image). Tried boulean object and subtract from solid object.

Re: personalised Tread and Risers

Barry Kelly — Fri, 03 Apr 2020 08:49:27 GMT

Wouldn't you convert it to a morph, cut the holes in it (by editing morph or maybe by Solid Element Operation?) and then save it back as a tread/riser?
I don't think it will be very parametric if you need to adjust the width of the stair for example.
I think you would need to script the riser/tread to make it parametric.

Barry.

Re: personalised Tread and Risers

Anonymous — Fri, 03 Apr 2020 09:34:34 GMT

The first suggestion i tried - i.e. to cut hole in both options (solid element operation & editing the morph). Both seem problematic for diffeent ressons, and neither worked.

"scripting the riser" - perhaps something i need to look in to doing. Dont know how ?
will google it as well.

Re: personalised Tread and Risers

Barry Kelly — Mon, 06 Apr 2020 00:53:32 GMT

atfonit wrote:
ThanKs Barry, yes have done the SAVE AS as riser / tread after convertinbg to Morph but cannot seem to create the hole in the steel, which was a complex profile (see image). Tried boulean object and subtract from solid object.

I just quickly tried.
Set complex profile for all risers.
Select one (lowest one is best) and convert to morph.
Place some beams and did Solid Element Operation for holes.
Resaved as morph so the holes are locked in and beams can be deleted.
Select morph and save as library part - riser.
Set stair to use the new riser.

Barry.

Re: personalised Tread and Risers

Barry Kelly — Mon, 06 Apr 2020 00:55:21 GMT

atfonit wrote:
"scripting the riser" - perhaps something i need to look in to doing. Dont know how ?
will google it as well.

If you are not familiar with GDL scripting I would not even try this.

Barry.

Re: personalised Tread and Risers

runxel — Mon, 06 Apr 2020 21:34:53 GMT

Barry wrote:
If you are not familiar with GDL scripting I would not even try this.

True!
But luckily there many people on this forum.

Soon to be released...

Re: personalised Tread and Risers

Christophe Fortineau — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 08:39:52 GMT

runxel wrote:
Soon to be released...

I hope to see it as soon as possible !

Re: personalised Tread and Risers

runxel — Thu, 09 Apr 2020 14:25:39 GMT

There you go!
A little Easter gift.

Have fun and stay safe 🙂

Re: personalised Tread and Risers

Anonymous — Sat, 11 Apr 2020 07:07:14 GMT

RUNXEL : ??

DID I MISS a link or something ? Whats to be released here ? ref : your sexy image of all holes in different shapes.

Re: personalised Tread and Risers

runxel — Sat, 11 Apr 2020 09:02:40 GMT

atfonit wrote:
RUNXEL : ??

DID I MISS a link or something ? Whats to be released here ? ref : your sexy image of all holes in different shapes.

Yes, seems so!

There is the link to the object. It's a riser with some additional options. And you can cut holes into the riser, e.g. like the OP wanted to do 🙂

Re: personalised Tread and Risers

Christophe Fortineau — Sat, 11 Apr 2020 10:32:59 GMT

Thanks Lucas Becker !
Great job and thanks about your generosity.

Re: personalised Tread and Risers

Lingwisyer — Tue, 14 Apr 2020 01:47:53 GMT

Looks good Lucas