topic Re: Bi-Folding windows in AC22? Where are they? in Libraries & objects

Bi-Folding windows in AC22? Where are they?

rob2218 — Wed, 24 May 2023 10:25:35 GMT

I've posted this a few times....no answers.
The client is looking to install a bi-folding window...yet I only find a "bi-folding door object".....where can I find a bi-folding window object in AC22's library?

thanks,

Re: Bi-Folding windows in AC22? Where are they?

Brett Brown — Wed, 08 Apr 2020 00:26:08 GMT

Have you heard of Google? I have and did a search and there was the answer. Actually a thread here, surprise, surprise.

Re: Bi-Folding windows in AC22? Where are they?

Lingwisyer — Wed, 08 Apr 2020 01:14:52 GMT

Brett wrote:
Have you heard of Google? I have and did a search and there was the answer. Actually a thread here, surprise, surprise.

Are not all of those threads about 3rd party libraries...?

Re: Bi-Folding windows in AC22? Where are they?

rob2218 — Wed, 08 Apr 2020 15:10:32 GMT

Really? Graphisoft never created a window that bifold?

You need a third party window library to have ONE bifold in window?

Wow.......

Re: Bi-Folding windows in AC22? Where are they?

Richard Morrison — Wed, 08 Apr 2020 16:39:36 GMT

rob2218 wrote:
I've posted this a few times....no answers.
The client is looking to install a bi-folding window...yet I only find a "bi-folding door object".....where can I find a bi-folding window object in AC22's library?

Why do you even care if it's a door or a window? Give it a classification as a window and window properties are available for scheduling purposes. Alternatively, if you really, really need it to show as a window, you can open the object, change the subtype to "window" and save the object with a new name.

Re: Bi-Folding windows in AC22? Where are they?

Lingwisyer — Thu, 09 Apr 2020 01:09:23 GMT

Richard wrote:

rob2218 wrote:
I've posted this a few times....no answers.
The client is looking to install a bi-folding window...yet I only find a "bi-folding door object".....where can I find a bi-folding window object in AC22's library?

Why do you even care if it's a door or a window? Give it a classification as a window and window properties are available for scheduling purposes. Alternatively, if you really, really need it to show as a window, you can open the object, change the subtype to "window" and save the object with a new name.

The only issue with that is that doors do not have a bottom frame, so your elevations and sections are incorrect if you do not manually correct for it. Though in Rob's case, that is not an issue as the bottom frame is a table which would be modelled separately anyway.

Ling.

Re: Bi-Folding windows in AC22? Where are they?

rob2218 — Thu, 09 Apr 2020 22:35:48 GMT

Richard wrote:

rob2218 wrote:
I've posted this a few times....no answers.
The client is looking to install a bi-folding window...yet I only find a "bi-folding door object".....where can I find a bi-folding window object in AC22's library?
Why do you even care if it's a door or a window? Give it a classification as a window and window properties are available for scheduling purposes. Alternatively, if you really, really need it to show as a window, you can open the object, change the subtype to "window" and save the object with a new name.

show me........how I would turn a door into a window so that it schedules "AS" a window properly.

Re: Bi-Folding windows in AC22? Where are they?

rob2218 — Thu, 09 Apr 2020 23:13:10 GMT

True about the bottom frame but...you can easily mimic a bottom frame with say, a threshold....so that's not too bad.
I just need a "window object" to be a bi-folding window is all. So I can schedule it in the window schedules.

Lingwisyer wrote:

Richard wrote:

rob2218 wrote:
I've posted this a few times....no answers.
The client is looking to install a bi-folding window...yet I only find a "bi-folding door object".....where can I find a bi-folding window object in AC22's library?

Why do you even care if it's a door or a window? Give it a classification as a window and window properties are available for scheduling purposes. Alternatively, if you really, really need it to show as a window, you can open the object, change the subtype to "window" and save the object with a new name.

The only issue with that is that doors do not have a bottom frame, so your elevations and sections are incorrect if you do not manually correct for it. Though in Rob's case, that is not an issue as the bottom frame is a table which would be modelled separately anyway.

Ling.

Re: Bi-Folding windows in AC22? Where are they?

rob2218 — Fri, 10 Apr 2020 02:01:22 GMT

So...I tried to mess with the "subtype" by opening the door object and it messed the object up.
Was able to see that now the "window marker" shows up but it totally trashed the parameters.

So...explain how to do this?

Richard wrote:

rob2218 wrote:
I've posted this a few times....no answers.
The client is looking to install a bi-folding window...yet I only find a "bi-folding door object".....where can I find a bi-folding window object in AC22's library?
Why do you even care if it's a door or a window? Give it a classification as a window and window properties are available for scheduling purposes. Alternatively, if you really, really need it to show as a window, you can open the object, change the subtype to "window" and save the object with a new name.

Re: Bi-Folding windows in AC22? Where are they?

Lingwisyer — Tue, 14 Apr 2020 01:08:14 GMT

You cannot simply just change the Object Sub-Type as there are parameters that are associated to it by default that are not associated to the new sub-type, and hence will be dropped. These will need to be re-added as custom parameters to the parameter list.

Ling.

Re: Bi-Folding windows in AC22? Where are they?

rob2218 — Tue, 14 Apr 2020 03:36:48 GMT

Wonderful...more customization to a window object that "should" be part of the stock AC22 window libraries.....a bi-folding window......it's a typical windows used EVERYWHERE in the world.....yet no stock object for it.

Re: Bi-Folding windows in AC22? Where are they?

Lingwisyer — Tue, 14 Apr 2020 08:40:07 GMT

It is an odd one, as they have the Bifold Door which would be scripted almost identically.

Re: Bi-Folding windows in AC22? Where are they?

rob2218 — Tue, 14 Apr 2020 14:43:17 GMT

it may be an "odd" window but....here in SoCal....its used tremendously for indoor/outdoor kitchen to patio use, so, not that odd here.

I just wish Graphisoft would rehire "architects" to program their software rather than kids who've never had any experience in the field of construction/architecture. Sometimes, being in the "trenches" for decades adds so much more than being able to program objects.....but alas.

No biggy, maybe when GS comes out with release 30.....they'll include a stock "bi-fold window" object.

Re: Bi-Folding windows in AC22? Where are they?

Anonymous — Wed, 07 Apr 2021 22:56:01 GMT

Any news on this? We use bi-fold windows in our projects regularly as well. Having to use the bi-fold door just adds extra steps.

Re: Bi-Folding windows in AC22? Where are they?

Anonymous — Sun, 11 Apr 2021 12:17:25 GMT

Do yourself a favor and rent for one month cad image tools (around 30 dollars). It has all the windows you need.

Re: Bi-Folding windows in AC22? Where are they?

Barry Kelly — Mon, 12 Apr 2021 01:12:38 GMT

jocontreras wrote:
Do yourself a favor and rent for one month cad image tools (around 30 dollars). It has all the windows you need.

Or just get a free trial to test them.
But just remember, if you are not paying the monthly/yearly subscription after your trial period, you will be able to see placed instances of their objects, but you won't be able to modify them.

Barry.

Re: Bi-Folding windows in AC22? Where are they?

rob2218 — Mon, 12 Apr 2021 14:00:04 GMT

jocontreras wrote:
Do yourself a favor and rent for one month cad image tools (around 30 dollars). It has all the windows you need.

CadImages Plug-ins cost $30.....PER MONTH? Wow...thats pricey. $360/year.....that's half the cost of full blown Archicad software.

Re: Bi-Folding windows in AC22? Where are they?

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 12 Apr 2021 16:04:42 GMT

rob2218 wrote:
... $360/year.....that's half the cost of full blown Archicad software.

Uh, no. Fact check. It is less than half the cost of a one year maintenance subscription renewal on an existing license which costs more than 12x that to start.

If fully apples to apples - comparing monthly license fees.... ARCHICAD USA is $280/month or $ 2,250/year for full subscription/rental vs purchase. So, over 9x more on a rental basis.
https://graphisoft.com/us/subscription-license-pricing

Re: Bi-Folding windows in AC22? Where are they?

rob2218 — Sun, 18 Apr 2021 18:14:55 GMT

Half the cost of my “Archicad Subscription” software rental of Archicad.....that’s what I meant
to type.
I know a full-blown AC cost Bucco pesos......but the subscription program is around $800/year.

Re: Bi-Folding windows in AC22? Where are they?

Richard Morrison — Sun, 18 Apr 2021 19:57:56 GMT

Or look at a $30/mo. price tag, if you're billing $90/hour, it's 1/3 of an hour (i.e. 20 min. of billable time) per month. You've probably already spent that much time on this thread just griping about it.