topic Re: Door with raised sidelite windows? in Libraries & objects

Door with raised sidelite windows?

rob2218 — Wed, 24 May 2023 10:32:58 GMT

so....does AC17 have any? see attached.
I'm looking to have sidelights that can be "raised" vertically off the ground plain.
Does AC17 have any door objects with sidelights where you can independently raise the bottom of the sidelites to a desired height off the ground???

Re: Door with raised sidelite windows?

rob2218 — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 21:53:41 GMT

OH...and by the way..the (ahem) workaround right now is....."window/door/window" and the when trying to get the interior elevations to NOT show the lines that compose each part....well, my supervisor looks at me and says...."Why are you showing the windows like that?...don't you know that the casing around the entire door and 2 side raised windows is all ONE seamless casing".............YEAH!...I know that....I respond. I'm not WANTING to show the #$% object like that but I had to show "something"!!!!......

needless to say......your employer doesn't like hearing..."but can't this program I spent thousands of dollars on give me a simple door/sidelite object that I can raise the sidelites on"?????...hubboy...here we go again.

Re: Door with raised sidelite windows?

Anonymous — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 00:55:19 GMT

Rob the door you are after is called Door with 2 Sidelights 17 (funnily enough)
The Shape options in the user interface is where you will find how to raise the sidelight sills.
Then the Opening type and angle gives you a double hung option windows!

Don't sweat it, your thousands of dollars software has you covered!

Re: Door with raised sidelite windows?

rob2218 — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 01:05:56 GMT

OH yeah!.
I'll try it out tomorrow sir!
thanks....that is the one I'm looking for......

Re: Door with raised sidelite windows?

rob2218 — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 01:12:57 GMT

OK I think I spoke too soon....
remember I'm in the U.S....perhaps the International version has that option but the version I'm looking at didn't show me any place in the "shapes" area of the dialogue box where to raise only the sills for the sidelites....(see attached)

Re: Door with raised sidelite windows?

Anonymous — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 01:26:23 GMT

If I had to guess I'd say it will be in the entrance doors too!
Use the search function top left of the Door Settings dialog and try search for "sidelight" I have a feeling it will be in there!

Re: Door with raised sidelite windows?

Anonymous — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 06:28:54 GMT

That's interesting, also frustrating, in my AC the option shows up.
Try the D1 2Sidelight 17.

Re: Door with raised sidelite windows?

Erika Epstein — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 14:45:46 GMT

Rob,
You can download that door that Kristian showed and similar ones from the BIM portal.

Re: Door with raised sidelite windows?

rob2218 — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 15:36:18 GMT

So...it's not in the "entrance door" library either.
Erika...could you point me to where in the BIM portal this door would be found?

thanks,

Re: Door with raised sidelite windows?

rob2218 — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 15:37:26 GMT

that's because I see from your sig you are using AC18?
I'm using AC17. they didn't seem to have that option in AC17 to make the sidelites sill different than the door sill.

frustrating indeed.

Ilder wrote:
That's interesting, also frustrating, in my AC the option shows up.
Try the D1 2Sidelight 17.

Re: Door with raised sidelite windows?

Erika Epstein — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 15:53:07 GMT

Rob,
from within 17 do a search of doors as shown in screen shot. This will give you the AC17 compatible version.

Re: Door with raised sidelite windows?

rob2218 — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 16:24:48 GMT

thanks Erika for your help......so we are almost there.
it appears that when you "raise" the sidelite sills on this particular model.....the "CASINGS" no longer are available.....hubboy.

Almost there though.

thanks,

Re: Door with raised sidelite windows?

rob2218 — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 17:33:07 GMT

Kristian.....does this door you are showing in this pictorial......are the "casings" available for this door or they are also "blocked out"??

Kristian wrote:
Rob the door you are after is called Door with 2 Sidelights 17 (funnily enough)
The Shape options in the user interface is where you will find how to raise the sidelight sills.
Then the Opening type and angle gives you a double hung option windows!

Don't sweat it, your thousands of dollars software has you covered!

Re: Door with raised sidelite windows?

Erika Epstein — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 18:42:08 GMT

Download "Door with 2 Sidelights 17". This one retains casing.

Re: Door with raised sidelite windows?

rob2218 — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 21:37:16 GMT

thanks....ALL of you!
you've been most helpful.

Erika especially.

Erika, question: where did you find these "doors"? I mean...who makes them? why are they NOT part of AC if Graphisoft indeed is the maker of them?
why do we have to go hunting and pecking to find wonderful doors like these that do all sorts of amazing trim and sidelight gymnastics....as opposed to why aren't they part of Archicad's Library of doors functionality?

Re: Door with raised sidelite windows?

Barry Kelly — Thu, 18 Sep 2014 02:30:06 GMT

rob2218 wrote:
where did you find these "doors"? I mean...who makes them? why are they NOT part of AC if Graphisoft indeed is the maker of them?
why do we have to go hunting and pecking to find wonderful doors like these that do all sorts of amazing trim and sidelight gymnastics....as opposed to why aren't they part of Archicad's Library of doors functionality?

This door is part of the standard Archicad library as far as I can see - at least it is with the AUS version.
The USA version may be different it seems.

The BIM portal contains objects from anyone who wants to upload them so they don't have to be just from Graphisoft.
I believe also that Graphisoft upload all the various international versions so that everyone has access to them but I am not 100% sure on that.

Barry.

Re: Door with raised sidelite windows?

Barry Kelly — Thu, 18 Sep 2014 02:36:23 GMT

When I browse for doors I see a few specifically for "USA".

Barry.

Re: Door with raised sidelite windows?

Anonymous — Thu, 18 Sep 2014 06:26:36 GMT

No, this option is already in AC17 and show up in both objects.

Re: Door with raised sidelite windows?

rob2218 — Thu, 18 Sep 2014 16:01:02 GMT

NO...it is not.
there are some doors that "don't" have the option to move the sidelite sill up or down........check it out.
I looked high and low and couldn't find doors with sidelights that were adjustable.

Now.....I'm curious....when I do a search in the objects search menu....a bunch of doors populate that search. How can I tell "which" doors are coming from the AC17 OOTB library and ones that "others" have made?

Ilder wrote:
No, this option is already in AC17 and show up in both objects.

Re: Door with raised sidelite windows?

Barry Kelly — Fri, 19 Sep 2014 01:28:56 GMT

rob2218 wrote:
Now.....I'm curious....when I do a search in the objects search menu....a bunch of doors populate that search. How can I tell "which" doors are coming from the AC17 OOTB library and ones that "others" have made?

The objects with the green globe icon are the ones on the BIM Components portal.
The ones without the icon are yours in your loaded libraries - these will show first in your list with the BIM Components object listing after them.

Barry