topic Re: list of placed objects on a layout in Libraries & objects

list of placed objects on a layout

alemanda — Wed, 08 Oct 2014 08:42:37 GMT

Looking at the revision history objects I was wondering How to get a list of only the visible objects (placed in several views) on a layout?
Any idea?
Has somebody ever tried to get it?

Re: list of placed objects on a layout

Erwin Edel — Wed, 08 Oct 2014 09:39:55 GMT

Hmm... that would require some very complex scheduling and then manually combining them on the layout. From the top off my head, that is.

Any particular object category you are thinking off here (eletrical, furniture, etc)?

Or are you referring to revised objects only?

Re: list of placed objects on a layout

alemanda — Wed, 08 Oct 2014 09:50:13 GMT

I need to have a list of objects. It's for a general purpose. I think of it since a long time ... but I didn't figure out how to get it.
I saw something similar in the keynote by cadimage.
They have a schedule that can show only the labels on that specific layout.

Re: list of placed objects on a layout

Erwin Edel — Wed, 08 Oct 2014 10:23:40 GMT

You can use schedules to list objects placed on a story or inside certain zones, etc. This might be what you are looking for. You can place the schedule on your layout.

http://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/guides/archicad-18-int-reference-guide/views-of-the-virtual-building/archicad-model-views-2/interactive-schedule/

Re: list of placed objects on a layout

alemanda — Wed, 08 Oct 2014 11:28:44 GMT

Thanks for your help.

What you suggest It's not exactly what I'm trying to achieve.

I'm trying to have a list of only those objects visible on a certain layout. Of course in the layout I can place details, floor plans, sections, worksheet ...

Re: list of placed objects on a layout

sinceV6 — Wed, 08 Oct 2014 14:56:58 GMT

Hi.

Well, it "can" be done using GDL, but is not an easy task. The thing is: what kind of objects are you trying to schedule and how do you want them scheduled? I ask because views (per your last comment) can be scheduled. Objects however, cannot be AFAIK.

Please read this thread:
http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=45031&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0

If you like, I can upload the test I did using the code posted (with some modifications), so you can see how it works.

Best regards

Re: list of placed objects on a layout

alemanda — Wed, 08 Oct 2014 15:47:14 GMT

I need a schedule of the objects which are visible, only those visible, on a certain layout.
The schedule has to be placed in the masterlayout and it will be produced by GDL also.
My problem is how to know which objects are visible in that specific layout.

Re: list of placed objects on a layout

alemanda — Wed, 08 Oct 2014 17:49:02 GMT

Yes SinceV6
I read the code you mentioned in the linked topic.
... I need to study the "request" command for Homedbinfo ...

What I understood is that I have to write in a file the "context" (and the other data I need to schedule) where "myobject "is placed (plan, section, detail, layout), then place the "scheduler" in the masterlayout; the scheduler will read the file written by "myobjects" and check if the "context" (for each myobject) is present on that specific layout ...

A little bit complicated ...
I will try

Re: list of placed objects on a layout

sinceV6 — Wed, 08 Oct 2014 18:21:26 GMT

Well... not quite. The code in the example only works if both objects are placed directly in a layout, not a master. Didn't try to make it work that way though, in the couple hour test I made.

In that context, you have one object that writes information to a text file, and then a scheduler object that sorts through it to find the objects that are placed in that layout only. Just not sure you can create an object that you could place on a master layout and behave differently on each layout...

But what I understand you are trying to do is far more complex, so please correct me if I'm wrong: you want to place objects in standard views (plan, sections, details, etc), then place those views in layouts and create a schedule object that will know what views are placed in each layout and if they contain the objects you want to schedule? If that is what you are after, I don't think GDL can go that far. Something like this would need to be programmed using the API, and is way more advanced.

There might be some other workarounds, or maybe a different way to show what you want.

Re: list of placed objects on a layout

alemanda — Wed, 08 Oct 2014 18:48:47 GMT

sinceV6 wrote:
Well... not quite. The code in the example only works if both objects are placed directly in a layout, not a master. Didn't try to make it work that way though, in the couple hour test I made.

In that context, you have one object that writes information to a text file, and then a scheduler object that sorts through it to find the objects that are placed in that layout only. Just not sure you can create an object that you could place on a master layout and behave differently on each layout...

But what I understand you are trying to do is far more complex, so please correct me if I'm wrong: you want to place objects in standard views (plan, sections, details, etc), then place those views in layouts and create a schedule object that will know what views are placed in each layout and if they contain the objects you want to schedule? If that is what you are after, I don't think GDL can go that far. Something like this would need to be programmed using the API, and is way more advanced.

There might be some other workarounds, or maybe a different way to show what you want.

What you understood is correct.

I'm making some simple beginning tests. I will keep the thread updated.

I'm starting from this point
http://195.144.20.106/viewtopic.php?p=81698&sid=e4bb01eac63a342ca1b256256f8044db

Re: list of placed objects on a layout

sinceV6 — Wed, 08 Oct 2014 20:59:19 GMT

alemanda wrote:

I'm making some simple beginning tests. I will keep the thread updated.

I'm starting from this point
http://195.144.20.106/viewtopic.php?p=81698&sid=e4bb01eac63a342ca1b256256f8044db

Great! Would love to see any updates.

Re: list of placed objects on a layout

alemanda — Thu, 09 Oct 2014 08:32:40 GMT

...any chance to use STRSTR function with autotext <DRAWINGNAME>?
Something like this:

LISTOFDRAWINGS=<DRAWINGNAME>
dwgisonthelayout = STRSTR(LISTOFDRAWINGS, dwgtobesearched)
if dwgisonthelayout>0 then gosub ADD_TO_THE_LIST_OF_THE_OBJECTS_ON_THIS_LAYOUT

where dwgtobesearched should be the name of the drawing written on a text file by the object I want to schedule

Re: list of placed objects on a layout

alemanda — Thu, 09 Oct 2014 11:08:50 GMT

This way seems that it doesn't take me on the right direction ...

I try in another way.

First step.

I will create
- myobject. This is the object I want to be listed if placed on a certain view which is place in a certain layout. This object will write on the "objectfile.txt" all the parameter that I want to list and the view_ID where it is placed on (using REQUEST("HomeDB_info", "", homeDBIntId, homeDBUserId, homeDBName, homeContext).

- mytitle. This is the title-object which will write on the "viewfile.txt" the view_id of the view which it is the title of and the layout where that view is placed (using REQUEST("HomeDB_info", "", homeDBIntId, homeDBUserId, homeDBName, homeContext) and AC_Drawingname parameter).

- myscheduler. This is the object (to be placed on the layout) which reads all the view_id of all the views placed in the current layout (where the scheduler is placed) in "viewfile.txt" and then reads all the objects placed in those views. Then create a graphic list of the found objects, reading all the relevant and needed data from the "objectfile.txt"

In this way, filtering the objectfile.txt by view_id, I can list all myobjects (and all the data of myobjects written in objectfile.txt), belonging to views, placed on a certain layout.

Now the (biggest?) problem is how to recognize if the myobject is visible or not.
A couple of questions.
1. How to know, for example, if the myobject is on a layer which is turned off in that particular view?
2. How to know if myobject is placed on a portion of a view which is cut in a certain layout?

Re: list of placed objects on a layout

alemanda — Mon, 13 Oct 2014 05:08:00 GMT

I encountered another big problem, the biggest one.
What happens when I delete one of the placed "my objects" from a floorplan or from a section? How can I delete the related record in the text file?