topic Base Cabinet objects with 'open backs'? in Libraries & objects

Base Cabinet objects with 'open backs'?

rob2218 — Thu, 21 Aug 2014 16:58:30 GMT

here's the deal.
we need to have two cabinet objects back to back but...we need the back panel of the object to have an 'open' back. Meaning we need to see thru the cabinet object.
how would you accomplish this WITHOUT using "operators" such as slabs that you place on hidden layers...?

thanks,

Re: Base Cabinet objects with 'open backs'?

SenecaDesignLLC — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 12:00:13 GMT

rob2218 wrote:
here's the deal.
we need to have two cabinet objects back to back but...we need the back panel of the object to have an 'open' back. Meaning we need to see thru the cabinet object.
how would you accomplish this WITHOUT using "operators" such as slabs that you place on hidden layers...?

thanks,

you would have to make gdl code edits to the cabinet and or the base macro for the cabinet. otherwise you are stuck with seo to accomlish this.

Re: Base Cabinet objects with 'open backs'?

rob2218 — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 12:31:22 GMT

was afraid you were going to say that.....^

I hate....no wait, loathe, having to create objects in layers which are turned off JUST to accomplish something which should be programmed into the cabinet objects.
"backs" - check box for 'yes'/uncheck for 'no'.

Re: Base Cabinet objects with 'open backs'?

SenecaDesignLLC — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:55:29 GMT

rob2218 wrote:
was afraid you were going to say that.....^

I hate....no wait, loathe, having to create objects in layers which are turned off JUST to accomplish something which should be programmed into the cabinet objects.
"backs" - check box for 'yes'/uncheck for 'no'.

Well I plan to add that option when I fix the cabinets. Its like ten minutes tops of coding

here is a youtube link, is this what you are after?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtlfX5Z0Jww&feature=youtu.be

Re: Base Cabinet objects with 'open backs'?

rob2218 — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 15:02:49 GMT

video is telling me I need to "disable SafeMode"? WTH is that and where do I disable it?

SenecaDesignLLC wrote:
rob2218 wrote:
was afraid you were going to say that.....^

I hate....no wait, loathe, having to create objects in layers which are turned off JUST to accomplish something which should be programmed into the cabinet objects.
"backs" - check box for 'yes'/uncheck for 'no'.
Well I plan to add that option when I fix the cabinets. Its like ten minutes tops of coding

here is a youtube link, is this what you are after?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtlfX5Z0Jww&feature=youtu.be

Re: Base Cabinet objects with 'open backs'?

rob2218 — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 15:04:48 GMT

OK..that cabinet is "exactly" what I need......is it an AC17 or an AC18 file?
where can I get it?

SenecaDesignLLC wrote:
rob2218 wrote:
was afraid you were going to say that.....^

I hate....no wait, loathe, having to create objects in layers which are turned off JUST to accomplish something which should be programmed into the cabinet objects.
"backs" - check box for 'yes'/uncheck for 'no'.
Well I plan to add that option when I fix the cabinets. Its like ten minutes tops of coding

here is a youtube link, is this what you are after?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtlfX5Z0Jww&feature=youtu.be

Re: Base Cabinet objects with 'open backs'?

SenecaDesignLLC — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 15:30:12 GMT

i added the option while i made my wife and i breakfast... so its in my library i guess ha ha. i wanted to see if it would really only take me ten minutes

Re: Base Cabinet objects with 'open backs'?

rob2218 — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 15:34:42 GMT

uhh.....that's awesome....so how can I get that cabinet?

Re: Base Cabinet objects with 'open backs'?

rob2218 — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 15:36:09 GMT

perhaps you could be so kind and upload it to the "Depository" on the GS site?

SenecaDesignLLC wrote:
i added the option while i made my wife and i breakfast... so its in my library i guess ha ha. i wanted to see if it would really only take me ten minutes

Re: Base Cabinet objects with 'open backs'?

rob2218 — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 16:19:30 GMT

HUMMM.....small paypal donation huh?
well, I can't speak for the rest of the users here but it would be helpful for me.
if the "step-by-step" could be precise enough to follow.......then yoI'd be willing to compensate your time (10 minutes) but I'll probably turn into something like 30m of your time. I'm not too comfortable with Paypal but I could mail you a gift card to Starbucks or something to that nature. I could sure use a tutorial on GDL and how to script information into an objects parameters........so it's yer call.
send me a PM if you'd like and we can work out the details.

SenecaDesignLLC wrote:
well I cant really ask for money for the cabinet as it is not my property. I could however send you a detailed step by step process to add the option yourself. Its really not to difficult, and it will give you some more indepth knowledge of gdl. maybe a small paypal donation? to compensate for my wifes anger ha ha? and i guess for the time to write up the how to? Hmm...

Re: Base Cabinet objects with 'open backs'?

SenecaDesignLLC — Sat, 30 Aug 2014 13:23:37 GMT

I have made the decision to as of now not request or ask for any type of money for my work. Until such a time that i feel like ive gotten good enough to really ask for money. So should i get a chance this weekend i will make a video tutorial with a write up for everyone to see.

Re: Base Cabinet objects with 'open backs'?

Erich — Sun, 31 Aug 2014 03:18:10 GMT

Rob,
Ages ago I wrote my own cabinet object which I have used in all my work ever since. It has the option to turn off the cabinet back as you wish. PM me if you are interested (No CC rigamarole just don't resell it).

Re: Base Cabinet objects with 'open backs'?

vistasp — Tue, 30 Sep 2014 05:02:00 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
So any GDL Object coming from Graphisoft that has this license type (you can check the license type of any object by opening the object for editing, then check the License field in the Details page) cannot be modified.
It can be redistributed only unchanged and in whole.

Hmm... Some years ago, there were errors in the door openings objects (I think it was v. 10) which I corrected and uploaded to the depository. Looks like I violated the license?

Re: Base Cabinet objects with 'open backs'?

Richard Morrison — Tue, 30 Sep 2014 16:59:44 GMT

Holy Moly!
Rob, just convert the cabinet to a Morph, delete the back, and resave as a new object. Done. Probably less time than writing the post explaining what you are trying to achieve.

Re: Base Cabinet objects with 'open backs'?

Karl Ottenstein — Wed, 22 Oct 2014 18:59:42 GMT

This topic side-stepped into a discussion of whether we (users) are allowed to modify the standard library parts distributed with AC.

I've broken that discussion out here:
http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=47320
where it can be continued.

The net answer for this topic is that any of us can provide the steps necessary to modify the object to not display the backs... but was can NOT post the modified object itself. To understand this more fully, or comment further on the policy - vs the base cabinet issue - please go to the topic linked above. Thank you! 🙂

Re: Base Cabinet objects with 'open backs'?

Karl Ottenstein — Wed, 22 Oct 2014 19:02:43 GMT

Rob,

So that one of us can give you the steps for turning off the cabinet backs (if you still care??) - please give the names of the cabinet parts you are interested in, or at least which library version (17? 18?) you're using.