topic Re: Wish upon an Object from BIMcomponents.com in Libraries & objects

Free objects from Seneca Design

SenecaDesignLLC — Fri, 29 Aug 2014 13:48:41 GMT

I will post links to all of my objects and videos here.
they are all basic and probably have tons of bugs

PSYNRAILING

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=49102

PSYNELEC

Download:

https://copy.com/kEhHlts1ywL4IjXu

Psyncolumn

http://youtu.be/b8AF1OR6Xec

download

https://copy.com/UO3J7rYlWOyjcYYT

Newel post

https://copy.com/Gvcl9Vcz3jdgbpOC

BATH STUFF

https://copy.com/nKG1XCA4wmbVnToJ

FLOOR JOIST TOOL

https://copy.com/zhGxE8oyaqj9aQR4

PSYNEXTENDOTUBE

https://copy.com/32REjRVOsqjjsLfz

OPEN PROFILE TUBE

https://copy.com/73FUjAp1Lr9TbabD

Re: Wish upon an Object from BIMcomponents.com

SenecaDesignLLC — Fri, 29 Aug 2014 13:49:17 GMT

fuzzytnth3 wrote:
Geoff wrote:
I'd like to make a request for a floor framing object. I imagine it as a single object that is defined as a polygon in plan.
Thanks.
Way back in the mists of time when I first started learning GDL from David Nicholson-Cole's GDL Cookbook I added some bells and whistles to his object and you can download it from https://bimcomponents.com/GSM/Details/17793 While it doesn't use the method you describe which sounds very similar to the Rooftool this object allows you stretch out joists at whatever centres you require to do what you are looking for.

I've made the conscience decision, that until the time i feel that i am more than adept with my gdl skills, i will give away all my objects to those who would like them. PM me and i can send you links. I still have a bit of work to do on it but this is an item someone wished for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCYyt9sR_aI&feature=youtu.be

its coming

Re: Wish upon an Object from BIMcomponents.com

SenecaDesignLLC — Tue, 02 Sep 2014 23:29:27 GMT

the hard parts are done... i think... i hope ha ha. its getting really cool

http://youtu.be/y8HXBP4_n04

Re: Free objects from Seneca Design

SenecaDesignLLC — Thu, 04 Sep 2014 22:07:40 GMT

Just wanted to share a screen shot of my progress on this floor system object. I still have a few more things I want to add before I put it up on bimcomponents but the are easy and shouldn't take me to long.

http://youtu.be/wREISf93wRs

Re: Free objects from Seneca Design

SenecaDesignLLC — Thu, 04 Sep 2014 22:08:10 GMT

a 3d pic

Re: Free objects from Seneca Design

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 04 Sep 2014 23:19:43 GMT

The hotstpot editing to move around the building shape is nice!

If you want some more wishes and hard stuff... depending on if this is just to generate more believable sections, or to generate believable framing... there would need to be a way to include intermediate ledgers/beams as joists that long aren't workable in practice.

I think it would be complex to make a single floor framing object with arbitrary intermediate beams... but your existing object would work if it had the option to individually control the size and visibility of the rim joists. Then, for example, a full object as shown could span to an intermediate bearing wall or beam... and then a 'half' object (omitting the rim joist in order to but the joists up to the first objects rim/beam) could continue the span. etc. The half-objects would be needed anyway to rotate the framing direction depending on the spans. For example, your screenshot shows all joists going left to right, but based on the spans between bearing points, that wouldn't be how this would be built.

A great option would be if the joist profile could be chosen between rectangular lumber and manufactured i-joists. And, some kind of blocking for twisting would be a good option, too, if making real framing vs visuals for sections...

Re: Free objects from Seneca Design

SenecaDesignLLC — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 01:50:28 GMT

Karl, awesome suggestions. I'm working on adding multiple stair openings and then I'll have the ability to add any number of framing pieces that go the opposing directions and will have rotating hotspots. Send me some pictures of what you want exactly and I'll put it in. The beams should be easy too.

Re: Free objects from Seneca Design

Mario Sacco — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 07:33:14 GMT

nice object!

Re: Free objects from Seneca Design

SenecaDesignLLC — Sun, 07 Sep 2014 22:33:24 GMT

thanks! that railing is awesome too!

Re: Free objects from Seneca Design

SenecaDesignLLC — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 01:24:12 GMT

Karl wrote:
The hotstpot editing to move around the building shape is nice!

If you want some more wishes and hard stuff... depending on if this is just to generate more believable sections, or to generate believable framing... there would need to be a way to include intermediate ledgers/beams as joists that long aren't workable in practice.

I think it would be complex to make a single floor framing object with arbitrary intermediate beams... but your existing object would work if it had the option to individually control the size and visibility of the rim joists. Then, for example, a full object as shown could span to an intermediate bearing wall or beam... and then a 'half' object (omitting the rim joist in order to but the joists up to the first objects rim/beam) could continue the span. etc. The half-objects would be needed anyway to rotate the framing direction depending on the spans. For example, your screenshot shows all joists going left to right, but based on the spans between bearing points, that wouldn't be how this would be built.

A great option would be if the joist profile could be chosen between rectangular lumber and manufactured i-joists. And, some kind of blocking for twisting would be a good option, too, if making real framing vs visuals for sections...

I'm not quite there but very close. And once I get it figured out I'll be able to add everything you mentioned

Re: Free objects from Seneca Design

SenecaDesignLLC — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 02:19:15 GMT

Woot! Going to post a new video tomorrow... This thing is freaking sweet!

Re: Free objects from Seneca Design

SenecaDesignLLC — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 11:50:38 GMT

here is the new video. I still have a lot of work to do but its getting there. Everything is dynamic and you can add as many or as few of the options as you need for just about any scenario. next ill start adding real life framing such as blocking for twisting, options to choose different joist spacing and spans in different locations and anything else i can think of. All of which will also be dynamic. making this object able to fit just about any house shape. I even plan to add options so you can use it for deck framing too. I am open to all suggestions, and if you have complex framing situation send me a pictures and ill try to make sure i can make it possible.

http://youtu.be/SzD1gSUA9lo

Re: Free objects from Seneca Design

RandyC — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:28:03 GMT

This is looking realllly good , please consider adding the ability to add additional joist - so we can double-tripple - joist where necessary this would
be helpful around stair openings etc. ----- This scripted part should save a lot of drafting time . Thanks for the work.......javascript:emoticon(':D')

Re: Free objects from Seneca Design

_Salmon — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:57:13 GMT

Congratulations,
i think it's a very useful objet.
i'll consider 2d hotspots in plan view at the end of the mayor lines. Just for dimensions in production drawings.
cheers,

Re: Free objects from Seneca Design

SenecaDesignLLC — Mon, 15 Sep 2014 13:20:08 GMT

Ok, so my coding has to go on pause for a bit. Gotta do real work to pay the bills and keep clients happy. I had some realizations while working over the weekend and will likely be re coding my entire object. but once I'm done its going to be way more realistic framing wise and way more user friendly for editing. plus i need to do this so i can get arcs in the rim board where needed. might be a month or so before im back to it. but the new version is going to be way better.

Re: Free objects from Seneca Design

SenecaDesignLLC — Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:44:54 GMT

making a truss

http://youtu.be/sDjrF1VgTiI

Re: Free objects from Seneca Design

Aaron Bourgoin — Thu, 23 Oct 2014 18:32:52 GMT

:- D

Re: Free objects from Seneca Design

Hmooslechner — Mon, 27 Oct 2014 17:02:57 GMT

Very interesting object!

It looks easy to use in Your videos.

Your polygone-path border around the object and also the inner openings seems to consist of a static number of points - or do i have the false impression?

If that is fact - You should have a look at the free polygone-path with the ability to raise and lower the number of points in the path.

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=43721

it is a bit tricky to learn to use it - but the possibilities are awesome.

I just tried that one from sinceV6. It is very easy - when finding the place to implement your own code - to build impressive GDL-Parts on that path.

The other one from mariosmic has more abilities - implemented curves. Mayby You should take direct contact to them?

Really great work so far!

Re: Free objects from Seneca Design

Anonymous — Mon, 27 Oct 2014 19:12:52 GMT

The joist tool looks fantastic, i cant wait to try it out!

Re: Free objects from Seneca Design

SenecaDesignLLC — Mon, 27 Oct 2014 20:11:25 GMT

Hmooslechner wrote:
Very interesting object!

It looks easy to use in Your videos.

Your polygone-path border around the object and also the inner openings seems to consist of a static number of points - or do i have the false impression?

If that is fact - You should have a look at the free polygone-path with the ability to raise and lower the number of points in the path.

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=43721

it is a bit tricky to learn to use it - but the possibilities are awesome.

I just tried that one from sinceV6. It is very easy - when finding the place to implement your own code - to build impressive GDL-Parts on that path.

The other one from mariosmic has more abilities - implemented curves. Mayby You should take direct contact to them?

Really great work so far!

Thanks, i have actually been studying all of your objects and his and i have been working on learning how to make it work when i have time. it is rather complicated but i plan on adding that option to all my objects. thats actually while i put my floor joists on pause. i want to have the ability to curve and add points where ever i want. I just dont have the time right now to figure it all out. super busy with my new business and i have a six month old. i have a pretty good understanding of the dynamic arrays, its just the adding points and feeding them back in that still has me boggled.

here is a link to the thread to download the truss. plus a new video.

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=47341