topic Re: Force show the 2D symbol on schedule in Libraries & objects

Force show the 2D symbol on schedule

Achille Pavlidis — Fri, 20 Dec 2013 08:37:13 GMT

Here is my problem:

I have created various custom objects (steel plates) in my project.
These steel plates get placed in various positions (vertical, horizontal, tilted) on the model.
I have created a schedule that lists all these plates.
The problem is that I need those steel plates to always appear on their front view, in order to annotate them with dimensions for the holes etc.
But when a plate is positioned tilted or vertical, then it shows sideways on the schedule, thus making it impossible to put dimensions.

It seems that if the object has a 2D script, then it shows on the schedule as it is placed on the model. I dont want this. I want the object to always show its 2D symbol as it is stored in it, on the schedule. Is there a way to force this?

Please help!

Re: Force show the 2D symbol on schedule

Barry Kelly — Fri, 20 Dec 2013 09:30:39 GMT

Does it actually have a 2D script or is it a PROJECT2 of what is in the 3D script.

Either way all I can think of is that you have to tell it in the script (2D or 3D depending on how it was written) that when viewed in a schedule it must not perform any rotations (ROT).
You will need to isolate these by using GLOB_CONTEXT.
for example ...

if GLOB_CONTEXT <> 6 then
ROTx angle
endif

Or you can reset all the rotations back to 0 (zero).
for example ...

if GLOB_CONTEXT = 6 then
angle = 0
endif

Where 'angle' is your rotation angle parameter - there may be more than one for rotating in x, y or z axis.

This way when viewed in the schedule it will ignore any of the rotation commands but should still appear exactly how you want in your model.

Barry.

Re: Force show the 2D symbol on schedule

Achille Pavlidis — Fri, 20 Dec 2013 10:42:31 GMT

Thanks Barry!

You have been of great help!

Re: Force show the 2D symbol on schedule

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 24 Dec 2013 07:18:32 GMT

This is a really smart tip in my opinion.

Re: Force show the 2D symbol on schedule

Achille Pavlidis — Tue, 24 Dec 2013 09:28:42 GMT

it is indeed.

My only problem is that I was expecting to see the 2D symbol appear on schedule as I have copy-pasted it on the object.

It's OK. The only thing is that Archicad, every time I refresh the list mirrors some of the objects, for some reason, making the annotations appear outside of the object...

Why is this happening?

Re: Force show the 2D symbol on schedule

Piotr Dobrowolski — Tue, 24 Dec 2013 12:02:07 GMT

Maybe You have some of Your object placed in the mirror state?

So I would also add
in the same part of your script
if SYMB_MIRRORED then MUL -1,1,1

of course add proper number od DEL's

Best Regards,
Piotr

Re: Force show the 2D symbol on schedule

rocorona — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 08:24:38 GMT

Piotr wrote:
in the same part of your script
if SYMB_MIRRORED then MUL -1,1,1

in 2D script use
MUL2 -1,1

Re: Force show the 2D symbol on schedule

Achille Pavlidis — Mon, 30 Dec 2013 12:11:55 GMT

Piotr & Roberto,

thanks for the advice.

The problem is that by adding this, the object gets mirrored on the floor plan also, thus resulting in the wrong place.

So, I guess I'm back to my original question: Is it possible to have a schedule that shows the 2D symbol as it has been copy-pasted inside the object, and the 2D plan view?

Right now, what I have, when the object is placed vertically is the "3D front View" that shows the elevation of the objects (and gets mirrored) and the "2D symbol" that shows the floor plan view of the object as it is placed on the project.
If the object is placed horizontally, the "3D front View" shows the floor plan view of the object, and the "2D symbol" shows the elevation of the object

Re: Force show the 2D symbol on schedule

Piotr Dobrowolski — Mon, 30 Dec 2013 17:02:05 GMT

Did You use the mul command inside:

if GLOB_CONTEXT = 6 then

XXX

endif

You may use

if GLOB_CONTEXT = 6 then 

fragment2 1  ! 1-16 possible - in this case put the 2d on layer 1

else

-here put the rest of the 2d script of the object

endif

Best Regards,
Piotr

Re: Force show the 2D symbol on schedule

Anonymous — Tue, 16 May 2017 14:45:50 GMT

Hello,

I am having the same question. I am using GS -AC connection and I built some simple triangular panels as gdl objects. They have different positions across the facade but I would like to have them with the top view projection in the schedules to annotate and get real dimensions.

I am a beginner in GDL, could someone please tell me if the above code is all that i need to add in the 2d script window? I understand there was a problem with the MUL command. Is it still necessary? What means the Layer in the context of the Fragment2 1 command?

Thanks!

Re: Force show the 2D symbol on schedule

Anonymous — Tue, 16 May 2017 21:16:56 GMT

Ok i think i got the logic behind.
I just used this in the 2D script:

IF GLOB_CONTEXT = 6 THEN
!here goes the 2D symbolic view for schedules
ELSE
!here goes the usual 2d floorplan view
ENDIF

The only problem i found is that those objects that get the floorplan cut plane will appear with both the 2D symbol and the floorplan view How can i correct this?
I think it is happening because all the coding for the right floorplan vews i have copy paste it from an object on this forum, without understanding all of it. So i guess it needs some small changes.
Can i upload the object here and if someone could help me with the changes that would be awsome! Thanks!

Re: Force show the 2D symbol on schedule

David Maudlin — Wed, 17 May 2017 11:48:43 GMT

Constantin wrote:
Can i upload the object here and if someone could help me with the changes that would be awsome! Thanks!

Zip the file before upload, so it has the correct filetype for the forum.

David

Re: Force show the 2D symbol on schedule

Anonymous — Wed, 17 May 2017 16:06:48 GMT

Here you can find a sample GDL object of the panel i was working with.
You could copy a few of them and change some parameters to test a a schedule.
The panel is out of scale as i was testing these things very fast.
Strangely i notice now that the cutview which overlapps the 2D symbol in the schedule is always a 90 degrees no matter which rotation does the panel have