topic Re: Curtain wall door marker in Libraries & objects

Curtain wall door marker

Tom Krowka — Wed, 24 May 2023 08:52:03 GMT

Don't see a setting for door marker for a door placed in a custom panel in the curtain wall. Don't tell me it can't be done. Tell me I missed a setting someplace.

Tom

Re: Curtain wall door marker

Nando Mogollon — Thu, 16 May 2013 18:02:21 GMT

Select the curtain Wall, the go to Menu:

Design / Modify Curtain Wall / Label All Members

From there it's pretty much the same as labeling any other element, select, change it to the desired one, etc...

Hope this helps

Re: Curtain wall door marker

Tom Krowka — Thu, 16 May 2013 19:48:13 GMT

Thanks. Will check it out.

Tom

Re: Curtain wall door marker

Tom Krowka — Fri, 14 Jun 2013 18:11:00 GMT

Tried that....no result on plan view. Turned all other curtain wall components off in regards to labeling except for doors. Am trying to get a door marker similar to typ. door marker that will also show up on the schedule.

Selected and opened the dialogue box both in plan view and in 3D window.

Can't get any of it to work.

Thanks.

Re: Curtain wall door marker

Anonymous — Fri, 14 Jun 2013 20:32:06 GMT

Tom,

Did you try setting the default label type for 'Curtain Wall Panels Tool' in the label settings beforehand? If you set this to the 'Curtain Wall DW Label 16' label, then do the 'Label All Members' procedure as Nando suggests then it should work.

I also just noticed you can label the openings individually in sections and elevs. See the help file here - http://help.graphisoft.com/ac15_help_INT/Files/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwhelp.htm#href=04_Documentation.07.083.html#1004719

Re: Curtain wall door marker

kevin b — Mon, 08 Jul 2013 15:23:50 GMT

Getting closer on this thanks to this post but still not quite there.
I can get the marker to show correctly (through some modification), now looks like all the rest of our doors.
I am having trouble getting it to schedule properly with the rest of the doors. I can get the doors to show up on our door schedule but many of the parameters do not show, particularly the door size and the to and from locations which are read from the zones for our typical doors.

Am I missing something or is this still something lagging in the CW tool?

Re: Curtain wall door marker

David Maudlin — Tue, 09 Jul 2013 13:36:22 GMT

kevin wrote:
I am having trouble getting it to schedule properly with the rest of the doors. I can get the doors to show up on our door schedule but many of the parameters do not show, particularly the door size and the to and from locations which are read from the zones for our typical doors.

Am I missing something or is this still something lagging in the CW tool?

The Parameters used for the Door and the CW Door Panel are not the same, one comes from the Available Door Parameters, the other from the Available Curtain Wall Parameters. I don't think one schedule with the parameters in the same column is possible, maybe 2 schedules matched up on the layout will work.

David

Re: Curtain wall door marker

kevin b — Tue, 09 Jul 2013 14:02:15 GMT

So that's what I set out to do but still had a few issues.
For some reason the panel width and height dimensions show in schedule as decimal inches not feet-inches like everything else. To Zone and From Zone (which is how we show our door locations in schedule) do not seem to work. The parameters are there for listing on the schedule and when I put them on the schedule they just show as empty. Could do it with user defined but would rather it be automatic like it should be.

Re: Curtain wall door marker

David Maudlin — Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:25:21 GMT

kevin wrote:
For some reason the panel width and height dimensions show in schedule as decimal inches not feet-inches like everything else.

Right, as it turns out these dimensions are set by the Project Preference > Calculation Units & Rules which only allows decimal feet or decimal inches, not useful here.

Another option is to delete the door panel from the Curtain Wall, place there a Wall the same size as the deleted panel, then place a Door into that Wall. This door will schedule like the others. The downside is that the Door and Curtain Wall are not the same unit, so any changes to the Curtain Wall that affect the Door will require moving/editing the Door/Wall combination. But al least they will be visible in the model, so the change will be visible, not on a hidden layer.

David

Re: Curtain wall door marker

kevin b — Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:30:12 GMT

The fake wall and door trick is what we have done in the past, but with new versions we always are looking to eliminate many of the workarounds we have used in the past, and this was one of them.

Re: Curtain wall door marker

Anonymous — Mon, 22 Jul 2013 10:32:49 GMT

Hello.
I have a similar question. I would like to transform the bottom left corner of the curtain wall into a double door, but I cannot, as seen in the picture. Is there any way to delete or change individual mullions/etc. and to unite some panels?
Thank you.

Re: Curtain wall door marker

David Maudlin — Mon, 22 Jul 2013 13:11:39 GMT

igreere:

Once you have entered edit mode for the Curtain Wall, select the unwanted mullion(s) and delete them, the 2 bordering panels will be come one, which can be selected and changed to a door panel type.

David

Re: Curtain wall door marker

Anonymous — Mon, 22 Jul 2013 13:37:25 GMT

Thank you for the reply.
I entered the 3d mode,but I could delete only transoms and no mullions, for which I have only similar and not double/mirrored doors.

Re: Curtain wall door marker

Anonymous — Mon, 22 Jul 2013 15:09:33 GMT

Problem solved. Thank you

Re: Curtain wall door marker

Anonymous — Tue, 04 Feb 2014 14:08:32 GMT

I'm trying to label curtain walls with ID and fire rating (curtain wall system, not individual panels and doors).

I can label the system but I can't set parameters for the system as a whole.
I can set parameters on the panels and doors except generic panels, but I can't label them.
Why can't I give the system parameters when I can label it with labels containing settings for these parameters?
Why can I give individual panels parameters when I can't label them?

Checking "label curtain wall" the label settings is greyed out?
What am I missing?

Re: Curtain wall door marker

David Maudlin — Wed, 05 Feb 2014 14:32:09 GMT

Stefan wrote:
I can set parameters on the panels and doors except generic panels, but I can't label them.
...
Why can I give individual panels parameters when I can't label them?

Checking "label curtain wall" the label settings is greyed out?
What am I missing?

The Curtain Wall parts can be labeled in Section/Elevation windows, in the Help files see: Virtual Building > Construction Elements > Curtain Wall: A System Tool > Attach Labels to Curtain Wall Members.

You should add a Signature to your Profile (click the Profile button near the top of this page) with your ArchiCAD version and operating system (see mine for an example) for more accurate help in this forum.

David

Re: Curtain wall door marker

Anonymous — Thu, 06 Feb 2014 16:01:59 GMT

I want to label the curtain walls on the plan.
I still do not see or understand why I can't set more parameters on the system.
@David. Hope my signature shows now.

Re: Curtain wall door marker

David Maudlin — Fri, 07 Feb 2014 13:37:50 GMT

Stefan wrote:
Hope my signature shows now.

Yes, thanks for adding.

Stefan wrote:
I want to label the curtain walls on the plan.

According to the Help files: Documentation > Annotation > Labels > Placing Member Labels on Curtain Walls:
"A special kind of Associative Label is the Member Label. It is available only in a Section/Elevation/IE window, and only for Curtain Wall members." So I don't think it is possible to label Curtain Wall members in other views (like plan), except the entire system.

Stefan wrote:
I still do not see or understand why I can't set more parameters on the system.

I cannot follow what you are trying to accomplish, additional description with screen shots could help.

David

Re: Curtain wall door marker

Anonymous — Mon, 10 Feb 2014 11:27:25 GMT

Yes, it is possible to label the entire system in the plan view. And this is what I want. But I can not label the system (and list it) like I want.

I'm sure I just have to wait for AC18 and everything will be great and like I want it to be. Even labels.

Re: Curtain wall door marker

Anonymous — Mon, 10 Feb 2014 14:07:17 GMT

We found a solution that works for us.
See attached.