topic Re: Custom Components in Libraries & objects

Custom Components

Anonymous — Wed, 24 May 2023 08:13:37 GMT

I'm trying to make a custom door panel. I know how to do it, but when I go to save it, File->Librairies and Objects->Save Selection as Library Part.......I do not have the Save Selection As Library Part option. Its not in my drop down list. I reloaded the libary but its still not there. Am I missing something here? Have searched the forums but no luck. Help!

Thanks

Re: Custom Components

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 21:36:59 GMT

See:

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=40581

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=40025

Tip: the best search (for about a week or two now) is the Site Search box on the Wiki at the upper left of the page:
http://www.archicadwiki.com/FrontPage

It searches ac-talk, the Wiki and Graphisoft web site.

Re: Custom Components

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 14:54:52 GMT

Ok.
I have managed to get it to work but when I try to add the saved part, the custom panel option is blank. Not sure whats going on here. I have reloaded the library but that doesnt seem to make a difference. I need to figure this out because I use custom door panels and grill work on windows fairly regularly. Any ideas here? I am moving from V11 to V16 and trying to get up to speed. I know some things are different, but this one is driving me crazy

Thanks.

Re: Custom Components

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 15:43:02 GMT

paultp wrote:
Ok.
I have managed to get it to work but when I try to add the saved part, the custom panel option is blank.

You must save it as a 'door leaf' (see attached) for it to appear in the pop-up list for the panel type 'Custom Panel'. Worked fine for me just now.

Is that the problem?

Re: Custom Components

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 16:01:46 GMT

Something is missing on my menu. I have the Save Selection as Library Part but in the drop down all I have showing is Object. I have none of the other options you are showing. How do I add these to my menu? I looked at the Work Env. and didnt see them there. Maybe I just missed them or does that come from somewhere else?

Re: Custom Components

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 17:57:11 GMT

paultp wrote:
Something is missing on my menu. I have the Save Selection as Library Part but in the drop down all I have showing is Object. I have none of the other options you are showing. How do I add these to my menu? I looked at the Work Env. and didnt see them there. Maybe I just missed them or does that come from somewhere else?

See one of the two linked threads in my first reply - the steps are given there. The problem with bringing an old WE into a new version of AC is that you do not get all of the new commands unless you carefully modify your WE.

I used to modify my old WE for menus and several versions ago gave up and started fresh with the new menus and just changed the few things that I've customized. (Each scheme in the WE is separate - so you can still bring in your old shortcuts, for example.)

Re: Custom Components

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 19:54:50 GMT

Thanks for your input Karl. After much head banging and wasted time, finally got it to work. I didnt really understand at first to just start over with the built in WE and then customize that. That works just fine. Now to try and make up some time......

Thanks again.

Re: Custom Components

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 20:29:04 GMT

Glad you got it going, Paul.

Another WE tip: as long as you have saved (store button) each scheme in your own WE... and then export your WE to some place in your file system, you can then merrily switch back and forth between any standard WE and your own without any fear of losing your customized WE.

Little pet peeve of mine related to what you're doing is that they call the custom component a 'door leaf' and yet the term inside the door tool's setting is 'door panel'. Both are correct, but I think it would make more sense to more people if the terms were identical.

Re: Custom Components

vfrontiers — Tue, 16 Jul 2013 23:07:54 GMT

Pet Peeve #442

Why... simple things need to be so difficult...

Who ever told GS that everyone wants all the oBJECTS INSIDE the file they're working on...?

So an hour to flip back and forth and try to achieve the SAVE SELECTION AS.... door leaf...

only to find that it ONLY lets me SAVE as an EMBEDDED OBJECT... This is just LUDICROUS... I have three projects that need the same door panel (which, btw, should be a STANDARD OPTION / High and Low Louvers).....

Why can I NOT save to my LINKED library? Am I the only one who feels this way? (wouldn't be the first time!)...

Am I doing something wrong?

Re: Custom Components

vfrontiers — Tue, 16 Jul 2013 23:20:54 GMT

Pet Peeve #443

Why can't the Door (or Window) MAIN OBJECT pass the MATERIAL parameters to the CUSTOM DOOR LEAVES (or window panel)?

Now that AC has SCRIPTED materials when saving objects from the plan, it would be a piece of cake to edit the list to transfer one variable to the leaf variable...

But alas, I guess these leaves are supposed to so CUSTOM, they should only have the materials you modeled them with.....

Ugh...

Re: Custom Components

vfrontiers — Tue, 16 Jul 2013 23:52:14 GMT

I give....

Tried to SAVE SELECTION as OBJECT.... convert to DOOR PANEL (LEAF)...

Refresh BIM LIBRARIES...

I can see the panel as an OBJECT in the BimLIBRARY... I can select it and see AC16 believes it's a DOOR PANEL...

But will NOT show up in the CUSTOM DOOR PANEL pick list...

You know, this happened before... only it WAS in the pick list.... Then, out of no where, I noticed that elevations / 3d were showing the doors as MISSING (meaning they rendered as an empty hole with a frame)....

Bug perhaps? Or am I just out of luck and should push my project back to PLN....

Re: Custom Components

vfrontiers — Tue, 16 Jul 2013 23:52:58 GMT

The other screenshot showing it's not there in the CUSTOM LEAF PICKER...

Re: Custom Components

vfrontiers — Tue, 16 Jul 2013 23:57:09 GMT

Pet Peeve #444

Don't know if any of you can corroborate this, but opening and working on objects in TEAMWORK file slows down to 1/10 or worse the operating speed of a PLN file...

I should mention that the LEAF is available in the PLAN file version... my tactic has been to create a PLAN file for OBJECT EDITING... link to libraries that are the ROOT of the BimServer Library.... Make all changes there, then REFRESH the BimSERVER libraries just to avoid this slowdown..

Please, someone back me up here???!!!!!! or suggest an alternate method of creating parts to be used in all my projects....

Re: Custom Components

rocorona — Wed, 17 Jul 2013 06:32:02 GMT

vfrontiers wrote:
I have three projects that need the same door panel (which, btw, should be a STANDARD OPTION / High and Low Louvers).....

Why can I NOT save to my LINKED library? Am I the only one who feels this way? (wouldn't be the first time!)...

I totally agree.
You have to go to the Library manager, select the door panel object, save (export) it to the linked library folder, delete the object from the embedded library, reload the linked one, and voila... just a few dozen click more than needed

Re: Custom Components

Dennis Lee — Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:40:35 GMT

vfrontiers wrote:
Pet Peeve #444

Don't know if any of you can corroborate this, but opening and working on objects in TEAMWORK file slows down to 1/10 or worse the operating speed of a PLN file...

I should mention that the LEAF is available in the PLAN file version... my tactic has been to create a PLAN file for OBJECT EDITING... link to libraries that are the ROOT of the BimServer Library.... Make all changes there, then REFRESH the BimSERVER libraries just to avoid this slowdown..

Please, someone back me up here???!!!!!! or suggest an alternate method of creating parts to be used in all my projects....

Totally have the same experience. For me, I will just modify the part and save into the "embedded library". Then later on will export out to the hard drive, then refresh the bim server library.