topic Re: Door Marker NCS 15: A Tale of Two Markers? in Libraries & objects

Door Marker NCS 15: A Tale of Two Markers?

Anonymous — Wed, 24 May 2023 08:52:59 GMT

Hi Folks,

This is weird.

Look at attached two images.

One is of D1 15 swing door, with Door Marker NCS 15, not working.

One is of pocket door, with Door Marker NCS 15, working as desired. Tag shows Zone Number where marker is placed and object ID.
See next message for the image.

Tag shows Zone Number where marker is placed and object ID.

Same marker, two different interfaces. Not listed in duplicate library parts.

Doors shows in schedule, and recognizes Zone Number.

The obvious questions I can already answer:
1. Zones fill the room and are volumetrically appropriate.

Re: Door Marker NCS 15: A Tale of Two Markers?

Anonymous — Tue, 10 Jul 2012 14:37:30 GMT

Here's the other Door image.

The one that works.

Re: Door Marker NCS 15: A Tale of Two Markers?

Anonymous — Tue, 10 Jul 2012 14:39:15 GMT

Just to clarify the different interface.

The one that works offers the switch: Door belongs to zone where marker is placed

Re: Door Marker NCS 15: A Tale of Two Markers?

Erika Epstein — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 04:23:44 GMT

Are you on the latest build?

Re: Door Marker NCS 15: A Tale of Two Markers?

Anonymous — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:33:33 GMT

Library and Archicad 15 build 3898 are up to date.

I figure it must be a library problem. The simple question is: Why does the Pocket door marker work, and the D1 door marker not work, when it is the same part?

Re: Door Marker NCS 15: A Tale of Two Markers?

Erika Epstein — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:36:08 GMT

Nathan,
I can't reproduce this. By any chance do you have duplicates of doors or walls?

Are all the doors set to the same renovation status?

Re: Door Marker NCS 15: A Tale of Two Markers?

Anonymous — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:47:00 GMT

interesting questions.

No duplicates, doors are both listed as new, and classified as doors.

I also tried using display options to show the zone fill. No change.

This one to send to GS?

Re: Door Marker NCS 15: A Tale of Two Markers?

Erika Epstein — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:55:22 GMT

Which renovation status are the walls set to?

Re: Door Marker NCS 15: A Tale of Two Markers?

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:22:38 GMT

What happens if you take the Door that doesn't work, assign it another Marker, then assign back to it the NCS Marker? Does the missing parameter appear?

Re: Door Marker NCS 15: A Tale of Two Markers?

Anonymous — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:54:44 GMT

SUCCESS!!!!

OK.

Next question:

Why would the marker/program behave this way?

Re: Door Marker NCS 15: A Tale of Two Markers?

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 18:19:35 GMT

I don't know.
I cannot even guess.
I was just figuring assigning it a different marker, then the previous marker would cause it to reread all the parameters of the Marker.
Kind of like New & Reset for a project, or restart for a computer.

Re: Door Marker NCS 15: A Tale of Two Markers?

Karl Ottenstein — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 18:53:19 GMT

Nathan wrote:
Why would the marker/program behave this way?

As Laszlo said, it caused all object parameters to reset. I've seen various cases where objects behave very badly because invisible (to the user) parameters get set to strange values. Often, this happens from eyedropper/syringe use - where the original object interprets the exactly-same-named, but invisible parameter differently then the target (syringe) object. Nothing will fix it but the method Laszlo gave - start fresh with the default parameters for the desired object.

Cheers,
Karl