topic Smoothing geometry for Google Warehouse object imports? in Libraries & objects

Smoothing geometry for Google Warehouse object imports?

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 18:06:29 GMT

When importing objects from Google Sketchup the result in ArchiCAD is always really faceted/triangulated-looking regardless of whether the edges were first smoothed in Sketchup. This is fine for rectilinear shapes but not so much for shapes with warped surfaces.

A similar topic was discussed in this thread:
http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=35949&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=desc&highlight=elevation+view
However the strategy was based around manipulating the 2D symbolic view of the object in Section/Elevation.

I've noticed that the smoothing function of the mesh tool translates to GDL library parts when saved. Does anyone have any magical ideas for communicating the Google Sketchup geometry to a mesh (maybe as a contour map) that can then be smoothed?

Does anyone have any other bright ideas for simplifying the resulting appearance of Google Warehouse object imports in section/elevation view?

Re: Smoothing geometry for Google Warehouse object imports?

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 19:08:39 GMT

If you can wait a week or two until ArchiCAD 16 is released, then the new Morph tool will be very useful for this problem.

http://www.archicadwiki.com/RemoveTriangulationFromImportedObjects

Re: Smoothing geometry for Google Warehouse object imports?

Gerald Hoffman — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 20:48:09 GMT

Oh goodie ! Thanks Peter, that looks great, that might be worth the upgrade alone as there are now lots of model parts out there which I have only attempted to use when I couldn't do anything else, and then it didn't look very good due to all the facets.

Cheers,

Re: Smoothing geometry for Google Warehouse object imports?

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 21:09:35 GMT

Gerald wrote:
Oh goodie ! Thanks Peter, that looks great, that might be worth the upgrade alone as there are now lots of model parts out there which I have only attempted to use when I couldn't do anything else, and then it didn't look very good due to all the facets.

Cheers,

It does sound useful, doesn't it!

I don't know any of the details, but I suspect that this is what the new bimcomponents.com website will be based on - the user-led conversion of the 1000's of existing Sketchup and 3ds based objects that are currently too poly-heavy and not set up for 2d.

And as the Morph tool allows you to 'explode' any object back into editable Morphs, I guess it should be easy to remove or add extra detail and reduce polycount, then save it back again.

Re: Smoothing geometry for Google Warehouse object imports?

Anonymous — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:12:57 GMT

Sweet. I hope it works as effortlessly as their example there.

Re: Smoothing geometry for Google Warehouse object imports?

rocorona — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 20:04:53 GMT

Peter wrote:

And as the Morph tool allows you to 'explode' any object back into editable Morphs, I guess it should be easy to remove or add extra detail and reduce polycount, then save it back again.

Throwing away the historical parametricity of GDL. Amen.

Re: Smoothing geometry for Google Warehouse object imports?

Anonymous — Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:07:59 GMT

rocorona wrote:
Throwing away the historical parametricity of GDL. Amen.

-Very true

Re: Smoothing geometry for Google Warehouse object imports?

Anonymous — Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:23:42 GMT

rocorona wrote:
Throwing away the historical parametricity of GDL. Amen.

RIP GDL parametricity. Amen.

Re: Smoothing geometry for Google Warehouse object imports?

Anonymous — Wed, 20 Jun 2012 08:35:16 GMT

Jose wrote:
rocorona wrote:
Throwing away the historical parametricity of GDL. Amen.
RIP GDL parametricity. Amen.

it is far far away... i think

Re: Smoothing geometry for Google Warehouse object imports?

Anonymous — Wed, 20 Jun 2012 08:40:56 GMT

ila2 wrote:
Jose wrote:
rocorona wrote:
Throwing away the historical parametricity of GDL. Amen.
RIP GDL parametricity. Amen.

it is far far away... i think

Its a joke...

Re: Smoothing geometry for Google Warehouse object imports?

Laszlo Nagy — Thu, 21 Jun 2012 15:07:29 GMT

When was an object imported from 3D Studio, DWG or SketchUp ever parametric in ArchiCAD?
Never.

Now you can import them from these formats, tidy them up so they look good both in 2D and 3D, resave them as GDL and have Material, Fill, Line type and Pen parameters available.

So what are you guys saying? If it is a joke, I don't get is so please someone explain.

Re: Smoothing geometry for Google Warehouse object imports?

rocorona — Thu, 21 Jun 2012 19:12:39 GMT

This "joke" was only for the few GDL lovers.
The Morph tool is absolutely fantastic, and the ability to clean and enhance the "dumb" imported objects is a giant step forward.
I'm only scared about the evenience to see the BIMcomponents library so full of semi-dumb objects. Parametricity is the core... or the soul of GDL. We are prepared to have thousand of -maybe good- objects (or will we call them "blocks"?) and -in percentage- even less "true-GDL" elements.

Google 3D warehouse is an excellent place to find something you need. But how much garbage and really unusable objects there are? I hope Graphisoft has an efficient way to manage the quality (not relaying only in some "I like" procedure from users).

With my poor English I can't go deeper... sorry.

Re: Smoothing geometry for Google Warehouse object imports?

Laszlo Nagy — Thu, 21 Jun 2012 21:28:24 GMT

OK, I get it now.
There will be quality check. Both automatic when files are uploaded and also by GS employees. This is why it will take up to 24 hours for Objects to appear on the site after submission.
I too hope that quality will be kept to a good high standard.