topic Re: missing / doubles with v9 to v11 in Libraries & objects

missing / doubles with v9 to v11

David Bearss — Sat, 04 Sep 2010 06:12:54 GMT

Opening a version 9 project with v11 however cannot seem to read some of the library correctly. I have deleted and re-loaded the v11 library a couple of times and am pretty sure the path is correct. However apparently I am missing something.

Re: missing / doubles with v9 to v11

David Bearss — Sat, 04 Sep 2010 06:18:55 GMT

Here is floor plan.

Re: missing / doubles with v9 to v11

Piotr Dobrowolski — Sat, 04 Sep 2010 09:06:20 GMT

Get the proper subset library or isolate needed objects making (or opening) a pla of Your project.

Best Regards,
Piotr

Re: missing / doubles with v9 to v11

David Bearss — Sat, 04 Sep 2010 15:50:30 GMT

Piotr,
Could you elaborate? Not sure what you mean by subset or about opening a pla. As I understand just open the pla with v11 and select v11 library and they will be converted.

Re: missing / doubles with v9 to v11

Piotr Dobrowolski — Sat, 04 Sep 2010 16:24:14 GMT

Not so fast...unfortunetely...

Some lib parts were either upgraded that much so parameters will not match the old part.

In newer ACs You have the migration libraries - in 14 there are comatibility libs. for 10,11 and 12 parts.

There was no such migration library in 10 for the parts not "upgrading" automatically from ver.9.

There was howerver such AC9 subset library AFAIR it was downloadable from US tech support page (tr.graphisoftus.com...offline now)

You can check the goodies page (from help menu) - probably it was moved there.

Best Regards,
Piotr

Re: missing / doubles with v9 to v11

David Bearss — Sat, 04 Sep 2010 16:50:24 GMT

Got it. I will check the goodies page and see what I can find. Otherwise I am beginning to suspect that - as you suggested - library parameters were modified by me in the original pln and consequently do not migrate. In evaluating the missing library parts I am realising that the names are often the name I associated with some favorites in the original pln.

Re: missing / doubles with v9 to v11

David Bearss — Sat, 04 Sep 2010 17:42:18 GMT

So I re-installed v9 and when opening up the original pln the same parts do not load. Not sure where to turn now. Might have to go windsurfing.

Re: missing / doubles with v9 to v11

Karl Ottenstein — Sat, 04 Sep 2010 18:39:48 GMT

David wrote:
So I re-installed v9 and when opening up the original pln the same parts do not load. Not sure where to turn now. Might have to go windsurfing.

I'm not sure what library you might have been using in the 9 file, as I do not recall any libs that lacked a version suffix. E.g., the door "D1" was always "D1 <doortype> <version number>".

Either you used some special library, or your PLN file itself might be corrupt and not referencing the lib objects by their proper names. Do you have any backups of this 9 project to check out?

(In general, I always save a PLA from the original version of AC - as Piotr suggests - and open that PLA in the new version as the first step of migration. All library parts used in the project are included in the PLA.)

Re: missing / doubles with v9 to v11

David Bearss — Sat, 04 Sep 2010 19:16:52 GMT

I am beginning to see the value of PLA files. I have been poorly managing my files - in the past - as I will certainly be going through and creating pla in the future. Fortunately the projects are small and I am going to modify them anyway so I can easily go through and manually update the missing objects. A good lesson learned.

Re: missing / doubles with v9 to v11

David Bearss — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 21:45:08 GMT

Just for the record; I reloaded v9 and was still missing the same library parts. Figured out that loading the v9 library director is different than loading the v9 library.pln.
Loading the library.pln loaded all correctly.