topic Re: Brick Window Sill Missing In Plan in Libraries & objects

Brick Window Sill Missing In Plan

DataChris — Wed, 24 May 2023 07:46:49 GMT

I'm running into two issues using the W1 Casement 25 (USA)...

1) Is there a way to show its brick sill in plan? As far as I can tell, this is not an MVO / Override issue as I can view the sill/apron if I turn them on for the same window.

2) Any thoughts as to why I'm getting this notch in the head of the window? All exterior casing is set to 0".

Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks!

Re: Brick Window Sill Missing In Plan

Lingwisyer — Mon, 04 Apr 2022 06:36:40 GMT

Regarding the notch at the top, check your Reveal settings.

Ling.

Re: Brick Window Sill Missing In Plan

DataChris — Mon, 04 Apr 2022 07:12:46 GMT

The only editable reveal option w/a Brick Veneer wall closure type, is the reveal to face. That sets the window frame back from the face of brick as desired. But the notch at the top remains (unless I set the reveal to 0"). The two should not be related, so definitely a head scratcher.

Re: Brick Window Sill Missing In Plan

Lingwisyer — Mon, 04 Apr 2022 09:11:30 GMT

If these settings become unavailable with a brick sill, you'd best go complain to who ever makes the US library...

Ling.

Re: Brick Window Sill Missing In Plan

DataChris — Mon, 04 Apr 2022 19:08:04 GMT

Thanks for the replies Ling. Definitely seems to be another glitchy Archicad issue. As you can see in the attached screenshot, that unlike yourself, I’m limited to a single reveal option.

But I was able to correct the notch by switching the wall closure type to Stud-Wall then changing the reveal to 0" then switching the closure type back to Brick-Reveal and resetting reveal back to 2” and the header notch went away (remained at 0”).

Total insanity that this is what AC users have to waste time with for something so simple. After a few years off, I'd forgotten how buggy AC can be. Now If I can only cobble together a similar (or possibly more straightforward) workaround for the lack of Brick Sill in Plan, I'll be all set!

Re: Brick Window Sill Missing In Plan

Ignacio Azpiazu — Tue, 05 Apr 2022 00:19:24 GMT

On AC24 USA, W1 Casement 24 —checking the 'Brick Sill' on Wall Closure… will show the sill on 3D but not on floor plan; a floor plan representation for the sill does appear however after also checking 'Sill' (was unchecked by default…) on Fixtures and Fittings… (after which I don't notice any difference on 3D).

Brick sill in plan on Casement US

Re: Brick Window Sill Missing In Plan

DataChris — Tue, 05 Apr 2022 01:19:59 GMT

Yes nearly identical in v25 but that Sill checkbox (in both versions) represents the Sill for the frame (similar to the stool on the inside) that will appear in plan (and section/elevation) as an element separate from the brick sill below. So activating it doesn't actually show the brick sill in plan.

Re: Brick Window Sill Missing In Plan

Lingwisyer — Tue, 05 Apr 2022 01:32:24 GMT

From the questions on this forum, I feel like the US library really needs some QC... and maybe some inclusions from the INT library.

Re: Brick Window Sill Missing In Plan

Ignacio Azpiazu — Tue, 05 Apr 2022 04:12:25 GMT

I know it doesn't make any sense, but that is how I am getting exactly the effect you were asking about on your first post, in 2D and 3D.

That “frame sill” is not showing in 3D, section. Or at least that is how it is working on my window. If it doesn't work that way on yours I can make a new pass and check whether I set something in that frame sill to zero or whatever. This is a project I haven't worked on for quite some time, and I remember I struggled with the thing for a while.

Re: Brick Window Sill Missing In Plan

DataChris — Sat, 09 Apr 2022 04:09:03 GMT

Does anyone else have any other suggestions for getting that brick sill to show up in plan? I've attached module of the wall/window if anyone wants to explore. Thanks!

Re: Brick Window Sill Missing In Plan

DataChris — Tue, 19 Apr 2022 21:28:19 GMT

Just following up on this Brick Sill issue... Does anyone else have any thoughts on HOW to get this brick sill to appear correctly (or at all) in plan? Module attached if you want to play around with it!

Re: Brick Window Sill Missing In Plan

mthd — Tue, 28 Feb 2023 05:02:22 GMT

I can get a brick sill to show up in plan view with the CI wall coverings tool.

I am having a problem with an Awning Window, in my case the CI brick sill is starting at the outer edge of the brick skin instead of the outside edge of the window frame.

Best to use a cover fill for your brick sill if you don’t want to show it in plan view and not use CI tools.

I might have to use a more updated window from the library and follow the reveal setting suggestions above.

Edit: Used the CI tools window builder and it displayed correctly in 3D. Still having problems displaying it in plan view particularly the inner reveal outline pen, I can’t seem to locate it ?

Re: Brick Window Sill Missing In Plan

nbrauer718 — Tue, 01 Aug 2023 20:56:10 GMT

Looks like USA lib isn't what it used to be!

No more brick/stone sill available below window frame?