topic Re: Sliding Door Not visible in 3D View in Libraries & objects

Sliding Door Not visible in 3D View

Tim23 — Wed, 24 May 2023 07:41:28 GMT

Does anyone have a solution for sliding door panels that do not appear in 3D with Archicad 23? My settings are set to full resolution in 3D view and the door opening toggle is set to 0mm. The sliding panel does not appear in elevations either, only the fixed panel. Images attached to illustrate. Has anyone else experienced this bug? A solution would be greatly appreciated!

Re: Sliding Door Not visible in 3D View

Christophe Fortineau — Tue, 06 Dec 2022 07:39:49 GMT

Hello @Tim23,

Dis you try to select this door from a plan and after a right clic select "show selection in 3D" ?
If you see a door from a 2D level plan that means this door is linked with this level but it does not mean this door is physically into this level. Perhaps this door is far away ?

Re: Sliding Door Not visible in 3D View

Lingwisyer — Tue, 06 Dec 2022 07:50:24 GMT

Though Chris, OP seems to only have an issue with PART of the door disppearing... which is really weird... reminds me of the custom panel bug...

Re: Sliding Door Not visible in 3D View

Erwin Edel — Tue, 06 Dec 2022 09:11:32 GMT

Check the model view options to see if the 3D detail is also set to full.

As Lingwisyer pointed out: are you perhaps using a custom panel?

Re: Sliding Door Not visible in 3D View

DGSketcher — Tue, 06 Dec 2022 09:25:28 GMT

Check if your project if located far from the origin...

https://community.Graphisoft.com/t5/Project-Management-articles/Far-From-Origin-Troubleshooting-Guide/ta-p/304210

Re: Sliding Door Not visible in 3D View

Tim23 — Tue, 06 Dec 2022 22:42:21 GMT

Hi Christophe, thanks for your reply. The door element is showing in plan, elevation, section, 3D etc correctly. I am just missing the active leave. Even the non sliding panel is visible as you can see in the 3d screenshot. Is it possible the active leaf could be offset or located outside the door frame?

Re: Sliding Door Not visible in 3D View

Tim23 — Tue, 06 Dec 2022 22:44:04 GMT

Hi Erwin, thanks for your reply. The 3D detail is set to full. I'm not using a custom panel but that has made me think that perhaps the standard door panel has corrupted or gone missing in my model?

Re: Sliding Door Not visible in 3D View

Tim23 — Tue, 06 Dec 2022 22:45:31 GMT

Hi DGSketcher, thanks for your reply. My model is only 23 metres from the origin so I'm not sure if this would have an effect on the door element.

Re: Sliding Door Not visible in 3D View

Tim23 — Tue, 06 Dec 2022 23:02:44 GMT

Hi Erwin, I've added a screenshot of the Door Selection Settings. I've got the default 'No grid' door panel selected and have 3D set to full. What's interesting is the door symbol shows correctly in the plan view in the upper right hand display box, but the elevation and 3d buttons give the message 'invalid 3d symbol. Open the library part for editing and check its 3D script for errors." I have attached a screen shot to illustrate.

Re: Sliding Door Not visible in 3D View

Lingwisyer — Wed, 07 Dec 2022 01:27:47 GMT

Do you get a Report when you open the 3D window? If so, what does it say? If there are already a lot of things listed, you can select it all and delete it, then refresh the 3D window.

Ling.

Re: Sliding Door Not visible in 3D View

Christophe Fortineau — Wed, 07 Dec 2022 07:58:27 GMT

"Is it possible the active leaf could be offset or located outside the door frame?"

Is it a door panel you create ?

Re: Sliding Door Not visible in 3D View

Barry Kelly — Wed, 07 Dec 2022 08:28:41 GMT

If you open a default Archicad template.

Place one simple wall and put this door object in it, what happens?

If it is fine then there is something wrong with your file.

Is the correct library and all of its macros loaded properly.

You do not have similar libraries loaded that may 'compete' with each other?

Barry.

Re: Sliding Door Not visible in 3D View

Lingwisyer — Wed, 07 Dec 2022 08:46:09 GMT

The odd thing is that both panels use the same macro, and given it is using the No Grid panel, the same parameters too...

Re: Sliding Door Not visible in 3D View

DGSketcher — Wed, 07 Dec 2022 09:22:36 GMT

Assuming this isn't a library part error, I notice in those settings that you have a -30 reveal setting, which will bring the window outwards. Has the wall by any chance had "Trim to Roof" applied? If so did you possibly include the window in the Target elements? If so, as well as trimming the top of the wall, the window & the wall will be vertically cut back to the edge of the roof.

It might also be the object has a problem with negative reveal settings.

Re: Sliding Door Not visible in 3D View

Tim23 — Sun, 11 Dec 2022 22:24:45 GMT

Hi All,
After sending the file to Graphisoft for their team to review it turns out the issue was with a bug/error with a custom door handle that was applied to the door leaf. The error with the handle was causing the leaf to disappear in 3D and elevation. I have removed the door handle altogether and that has fixed the problem. Thanks all for your comments!

Re: Sliding Door Not visible in 3D View

Lingwisyer — Mon, 12 Dec 2022 00:52:08 GMT

Hm... wonder how that works? Did they tell you what the error was so that you can work around it? OR was it just that specific handle?

Re: Sliding Door Not visible in 3D View

Barry Kelly — Mon, 12 Dec 2022 01:09:55 GMT

I assume it is in the way the door is scripted.

It probably calls the handle before placing the second door leaf, but because the handle fails, the door leaf is not completed either - not sure exactly why without pulling apart the scripts.

That would be my guess.

Graphisoft do love their macros!

Barry.