topic Re: Missing Accessories in 3D with MVO Settings Turned On in Libraries & objects

Missing Accessories in 3D with MVO Settings Turned On

ocamorlinga — Wed, 24 May 2023 10:35:07 GMT

Hello everyone, I'm not sure what's going on but my knobs for my cabinets are not showing in 3D. Knobs are turned on with materials set, the 3D Detail Level of the cabinets is set to MVO, and the MVO settings for my 3D View are set to show all accessories, but they're not showing in 3D. Is there another setting somewhere I'm missing? Even if I set the 3D Detail Level for individual cabinets to Full they still do not show.

Thanks!

Re: Missing Accessories in 3D with MVO Settings Turned On

Jorge_Arreguin — Mon, 19 Dec 2022 09:57:56 GMT

CHECK THE MODEL VIEW OPTION

https://ibb.co/FV2sjnH

Re: Missing Accessories in 3D with MVO Settings Turned On

ocamorlinga — Thu, 15 Dec 2022 19:52:25 GMT

Yes I checked that, everything seems to be set up correctly but I'm still not getting knobs to show up.

Re: Missing Accessories in 3D with MVO Settings Turned On

Jorge_Arreguin — Thu, 15 Dec 2022 20:56:54 GMT

can you send me a pln with that single cabinet ?

Re: Missing Accessories in 3D with MVO Settings Turned On

MetalFingerz — Fri, 16 Dec 2022 09:34:41 GMT

Hello @ocamorlinga ,

What happens if you turn that setting off in the MVO ?

I believe in earlier AC, that option was hiding handles when that icon was ON but it switched to showing it at some point. There may be some conflict there.

Re: Missing Accessories in 3D with MVO Settings Turned On

ocamorlinga — Mon, 19 Dec 2022 14:11:41 GMT

With the setting turned off or on, the knobs don't show in 3D

Re: Missing Accessories in 3D with MVO Settings Turned On

ocamorlinga — Mon, 19 Dec 2022 14:23:28 GMT

Attached is a pln with the default cabinet from the A24 library, and our slightly modified cabinet. Both are not showing knobs in 3D, the MVO settings are turned on and both objects have their 3D Detail Level set to MVO, although even if I switch it to Full, it doesn't show the knobs.

Re: Missing Accessories in 3D with MVO Settings Turned On

Jorge_Arreguin — Tue, 20 Dec 2022 00:17:49 GMT

I think i found it:
I did the following: I opened your drawing,
show 2d (F2)
select the 2 objects
press F5
select the two 3d objects and go to attributes
switch from MVO to Full

Re: Missing Accessories in 3D with MVO Settings Turned On

ocamorlinga — Tue, 20 Dec 2022 14:21:39 GMT

I did as you suggested, but the knobs are still not showing up.

I really appreciate your help! Could it be a Work Environment setting?

Re: Missing Accessories in 3D with MVO Settings Turned On

Jorge_Arreguin — Tue, 20 Dec 2022 15:28:46 GMT

I think looks more like a libraries problem in the web server , because when I copy paste the object to a new fresh open Archicad window, it show complet

Re: Missing Accessories in 3D with MVO Settings Turned On

ocamorlinga — Tue, 20 Dec 2022 15:42:20 GMT

Using the default A24 libraries in the installation folder still doesn't show the knobs. But I can confirm that opening up a new file with the default A24 template (not our office template) the knobs do show! So our office template is broken somehow, but what is it I wonder? What setting did we change? It is not in the work environment because I switched to our office profile in the new file and the knobs were still there.

Re: Missing Accessories in 3D with MVO Settings Turned On

AllanP — Wed, 21 Dec 2022 05:47:04 GMT

Hi,

Your template/file is corrupt.

It does not pass the value in the Model view option to the object, but it does store it.

I change the following library parts to work out where the error was.

the 0 is the "hide knobs value"

this shows a 1 for hide, but the stored value is a 0

when it is turned off it shows the 1.

this is a problem in the file, probably because you upgraded from an earlier version to AC24 rather than building from scratch.

if you open the file in 25 it fixes it.

you can then save the file down to 24, and the fix stays.

see attached file which was upgraded to 25 then saved down to 24.

if you save it down to 23 then open in 24 then the error reappears.

I hope your BIM Manager fixes the template.(or updates the Library so the knobs show up)

Re: Missing Accessories in 3D with MVO Settings Turned On

ocamorlinga — Wed, 21 Dec 2022 14:20:24 GMT

I am the BIM Manager 😂

But wow thank you so much for your help, it works! Unfortunately we don't have 25 in order to upgrade then downgrade but I think I should be able to use the file you provided as our new template. I really appreciate your time!