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Cannot Change Door Size in a file migrated to AC24

dhnguyen — Wed, 24 May 2023 08:39:18 GMT

I am not able to change a door size in a plan that I brought from archiCAD 18 to ArchiCAD 24.... Not sure what's the problem.
Does this have anything to do with keeping the file in "legacy format" when I moved the file over?
(If I open a new instance of ArchiCAD 24, create a door and change the door size, I dont have any problem with it.)

Re: Cannot Change Door Size in a file migrated to AC24

Lingwisyer — Thu, 20 May 2021 01:20:26 GMT

Just to clarify, you open a AC18 file in AC24, place a new door, and are unable to change it's size?

Door 24 in version 24 in an 18 file.

Ling.

Re: Cannot Change Door Size in a file migrated to AC24

Barry Kelly — Thu, 20 May 2021 01:23:07 GMT

dhnguyen wrote:
Does this have anything to do with keeping the file in "legacy format" when I moved the file over?

I shouldn't think so, but the only way to know for sure is to turn the legacy mode off.
You can always turn it back on again.

Is the wall layer locked by any chance?
Is the OK button in the door settings greyed out or will it just not accept a new size?

Barry.

Re: Cannot Change Door Size in a file migrated to AC24

dhnguyen — Thu, 20 May 2021 14:11:06 GMT

Yes, exactly. I opened the AC file in AC24, placed a new wall with a new door (version 24)- I can't change the door size. I also can't change the old door )version 18) sizes.

Lingwisyer wrote:
Just to clarify, you open a AC18 file in AC24, place a new door, and are unable to change it's size?

Door 24 in version 24 in an 18 file.

Ling.

Re: Cannot Change Door Size in a file migrated to AC24

dhnguyen — Thu, 20 May 2021 14:13:24 GMT

The wall layer is not locked. The door setting is not greyed out either. Keyboard works fine... It just defaults to 3' x 8' when I enter a different size.

Barry wrote:

dhnguyen wrote:
Does this have anything to do with keeping the file in "legacy format" when I moved the file over?

I shouldn't think so, but the only way to know for sure is to turn the legacy mode off.
You can always turn it back on again.

Is the wall layer locked by any chance?
Is the OK button in the door settings greyed out or will it just not accept a new size?

Barry.

Re: Cannot Change Door Size in a file migrated to AC24

dhnguyen — Thu, 20 May 2021 14:32:07 GMT

It works if I go into the door setting and change it there instead of simply changing it by clicking on the door size. I wish I can change it without going into the door setting.

Re: Cannot Change Door Size in a file migrated to AC24

Lingwisyer — Fri, 21 May 2021 01:09:28 GMT

What does the arrow to the right of of the 3x8 say? Is the object locked to standard sizes?

Re: Cannot Change Door Size in a file migrated to AC24

David Maudlin — Fri, 21 May 2021 13:08:43 GMT

DNguyen:

Lingwisyer is right: click the arrow next to Leaf Size and change the option to "Custom Size".

David

Re: Cannot Change Door Size in a file migrated to AC24

dhnguyen — Fri, 21 May 2021 17:30:16 GMT

Ling - see attached for the image. The arrow takes me to pre-set door sizes.

David - thanks, that works. So weird that I have to manually do it this way instead of having the ability to change it without going into the door settings.

Re: Cannot Change Door Size in a file migrated to AC24

David Maudlin — Sat, 22 May 2021 12:08:04 GMT

dhnguyen wrote:
So weird that I have to manually do it this way instead of having the ability to change it without going into the door settings.

The author of the library part should have locked the A and B values when the door is set to a standard size (anything but Custom Size) to help avoid confusion.

David

Re: Cannot Change Door Size in a file migrated to AC24

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 24 May 2021 22:54:37 GMT

DNguyen,

Just a question: are you sure it is a good idea to use Libraries from Archicad 10 and Archicad 6.5 in an Archicad 24 project?
A lot of things could be broken in those very old libraries when you try to use them in AC24.

For example, I distinctly remember my Zone Stamps got broken when we upgraded our projects from AC6.5 to AC9 around 2005 or 2006.

Re: Cannot Change Door Size in a file migrated to AC24

dhnguyen — Tue, 25 May 2021 00:15:39 GMT

Thank you for noticing. I inherited these files. I have so many library objects and half of the time I dont know what they are. I have a whole stack of library objects starting from Object 65 to 10 thru 18.

Is there a way to replace the old library objects with something newer so I can get rid of older library objects? If so, pls send a link with instructions.

Re: Cannot Change Door Size in a file migrated to AC24

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 26 May 2021 03:31:18 GMT

Unfortunately, at the time of AC 6.5 there were no migration libraries. And as far as I can see, Archicad 24 includes migration libraries for AC13 and later.

So, if I had this situation, I would probably go through those AC6.5 and AC10 libraries, and see which library parts have use for me. Which are the ones that do not have any equivalent in AC24. Then I would take those library parts (and their macros), open them one by one, save them in AC24 format, check whether they work correctly, and if they do, use them.
Otherwise, I would get rid of them and any macros/images they use.
Point is, you should keep your libraries very clean and organized. It can be some work now, but it will pay dividends later in increased productivity.