topic Re: Trapezoide Niche Object in Libraries & objects

Trapezoide Niche Object

Anonymous — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:04:37 GMT

I am trying to create a Niche Object in ArchiCAD with the sides folding back. As the base object to modify the script I would use the niche object in ArchiCAD Fig01.
Can anybody help me with the script to get something similar done as shown in Fig.02

Any help is greatly appreciated. Many Thanks

Re: Trapezoide Niche Object

Anonymous — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:56:23 GMT

Seems to be harder than I thought

Re: Trapezoide Niche Object

Jochen Suehlo — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:28:32 GMT

With WALLNICHE you can define niches with blunt pyramid shapes.
Look at the GDL manual.
An alternative ist to cut out a rectangle and put in 1 or more fill solids.

Re: Trapezoide Niche Object

Anonymous — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:29:57 GMT

Thanks for your respond. Unfortunately, not really helpful. Thanks

Re: Trapezoide Niche Object

Anonymous — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:48:02 GMT

Also, I am not really concerned about the floor plan but rather the 3D appearance.

Re: Trapezoide Niche Object

Erich — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 02:30:45 GMT

I recently wrote the attached object for one of our projects. While I did not clean up everything on this object in terms of the user interface and some of the future features, perhaps it will work for you...

Re: Trapezoide Niche Object

vistasp — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 02:36:04 GMT

GSNA wrote:
Also, I am not really concerned about the floor plan but rather the 3D appearance.

In such a case, SEO (solid element operations) would also work.

Re: Trapezoide Niche Object

Anonymous — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:00:10 GMT

Hi Erich,
Your niche object is almost exactly what I am looking for. I am doubting that I am going to be able to rewrite the script for fixing a couple of things?

Your object will be displayed 100% accurate on the front by selecting the "Use Wall Thickness" ON but it will bump out on the other side. If am changing to OFF and change the value to 2" wall thickness the header is hovering above the sides
Otherwise its perfect. Any ideas?

PS: I am trying to avoid the SEO for a number of reasons. I have approx. 800 precast pieces and multiply each piece with approx. 25 SEO's Its just too much! Plus, if the design changes I have to make sure that I am moving all the operators as well

Re: Trapezoide Niche Object

Erich — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 02:26:35 GMT

GSNA wrote:
Your object will be displayed 100% accurate on the front by selecting the "Use Wall Thickness" ON but it will bump out on the other side. If am changing to OFF and change the value to 2" wall thickness the header is hovering above the sides
Otherwise its perfect. Any ideas?

Unfortunately, the variable wall thickness routine is not perfected as you have seen. When I wrote the object, I needed a niche that bumped out the back side of the wall and took on the wall properties. I might get some time this weekend to look at it and but I can't promise anything (I will post it if I am able to get it fixed up).

Re: Trapezoide Niche Object

Anonymous — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 23:32:42 GMT

Hi Erich,
I still ended up using the SEO. Since I am exporting into Navisworks through IFC the niche object will punch a hole through the wall plus I have a greater flexibility in terms of attaching intelligence to an object than with a wall. Nonetheless, if you are bored over the weekend it would be cool seeing your altered object. Thanks again,

Cheers

Re: Trapezoide Niche Object

Erich — Fri, 19 Feb 2010 02:19:41 GMT

I am glad you have a method to get things to work for you. I have the niche object on my list to fix. Now, I just need to get some time.

Re: Trapezoide Niche Object

Erich — Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:58:21 GMT

GSNA ,

Here is an update to the niche object. While still not perfected it does resolve a number of the larger issues with the original, including the "header" that appeared with the wall thickness not matched. I also added the ability to allow the niche to exist within the wall completely, provided that the niche wall thickness and depth is not set to be thicker than the wall thickness.

Re: Trapezoide Niche Object

Anonymous — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:31:39 GMT

Hi Erich,

Thanks for changing and sharing your object. I will have a look at it later tonight. Thanks much

Cheers

Re: Trapezoide Niche Object

Anonymous — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:17:38 GMT

Thanks Erich,
This niche really helped me w/ my project.
Craig bergstedt

Re: Trapezoide Niche Object

Erich — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:50:28 GMT

craig wrote:
This niche really helped me w/ my project.

Glad to hear it.