topic why no cavity closure on empty doors? in Libraries & objects

why no cavity closure on empty doors?

Achille Pavlidis — Wed, 24 May 2023 08:56:19 GMT

Is there a reason why the "empty opening" doesn't have the cavity closure option?
I really do not understand this.
I saw the tip of using the "arched opening" to have an opening without door frame that behaves like an actual door, but this is a really lame solution.

Re: why no cavity closure on empty doors?

Erika Epstein — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:51:11 GMT

Achille wrote:
Is there a reason why the "empty opening" doesn't have the cavity closure option?

That would make too much sense

Re: why no cavity closure on empty doors?

Achille Pavlidis — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:10:14 GMT

I should have known!!!

Please vote for my poll!!!!

Re: why no cavity closure on empty doors?

ztaskai — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:05:14 GMT

Achille wrote:
Is there a reason why the "empty opening" doesn't have the cavity closure option?

Yes, there is one. Empty openings -- which come via checking Empty Opening button in the d/w settings -- are built-in in ArchiCAD itself and they should be as simple as possible to give a real quick opening solution. They started from an actual hole in the wall and got a bit more complicated over time. All the cavity closure infrastructure is way too complicated to get into the built-in library section.

As an alternative you can use 'W Rectangular Opening 13' which is unfortunately not a door. Following this track, ArchiCAD Library should have a 'D Rectangular Opening 13' object too. I added this request to the bug tracking system. Its priority will be determined later. It may get into the next main release.

Regards,

Re: why no cavity closure on empty doors?

Erika Epstein — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:05:17 GMT

Zsolt,
Thanks for adding this to the queue. Lets hope it makes it in to the next release.

Re: why no cavity closure on empty doors?

Achille Pavlidis — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:26:24 GMT

Great to hear that Zsolt!

Maybe you could also give a look to the cavity closure regarding the curtain wall?

I mean the same should happen when connecting a Curtain Wall to a Wall.

Re: why no cavity closure on empty doors?

ztaskai — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:01:23 GMT

Achille wrote:
Maybe you could also give a look to the cavity closure regarding the curtain wall?

I mean the same should happen when connecting a Curtain Wall to a Wall.

That's a whole other story. Don't get me started on that:) You won't have window-like or door-like curtain walls soon. For now, there is one workaround - place an empty door or window and a curtain wall. I know it's not perfect but it works...

Best regards,