topic Re: Little 2d Shear Symbol object in Libraries & objects

Little 2d Shear Symbol object

Anonymous — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:03:32 GMT

I used AC12's (save selection as) to make the Shear Symbol you see on the left of the attached image, with the 3 as static part of it, simply using it as a stamp and I fill in the length of the shear wall in the square box that is attached to the triangle has worked ok.

But now I'd like to get the static 3 to "right' itself when I turn symbol upside down or on it's side.

I tried to find script in the AC12 GDL manual, but I guess I'm blind.
Found what I think should work in Andrews excellent GDL Handbook(pg 184), but my lack of understanding of GDL has me at a loss as how to implement it.

Inside the green boxes of the attachment are what I added to try and get text to rotate, but as you see, (after several abortions of shown modifications), I'm still not getting "gdl ok".
I did change it's subtype to label.

I should add; I don't need to scale it and don't need to change the number in the triangle.

Any help appreciated.
Thanks
lec

Re: Little 2d Shear Symbol object

Anonymous — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 08:54:37 GMT

Hi Lec,

I don't use PARAGRAPH that much, but If I well remember it only handles pen, text styles and material... Try to put the transformations outside the PARAGRAPH.

HTH.

Re: Little 2d Shear Symbol object

Anonymous — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:52:30 GMT

Hi.
Between "PARAGRAPH" and "ENDPARAGRAPH" recorded only the definition of a paragraph. The commands coordinate transformation there should not be recorded.
Place RICHTEXT2 between commands coordinate transformation.

Re: Little 2d Shear Symbol object

Anonymous — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:39:06 GMT

Hi Paulo
Thanks for your reply.
I tried putting the "transformation" before paragraph (no go) and as you see, is now after(1) and Check Script says gdl ok, which it is not.
See black dot of demise (2)
I've tried other of my amateur combinations guesses of what's in my red box 1 and some give me "GDL Ok" as you see, but object still goes away
or I get error messages.

Valery
Thanks for you reply also.
I tried to use your Richtext2 "between commands coordinate transformations" but guess I don't understand where or how to put it in, as it seems no matter what combinations I try, I get error messages.
lec

Re: Little 2d Shear Symbol object

Anonymous — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:28:35 GMT

Hello,

Here is some kind of structure for the mentioned object. Would have
tested, but did not have your complete code.

This is just the code after the last of line2's;

define style "AC_STYLE_1" .........
set style "AC_STYLE_1"


paragraph "AC_PRG_2" ........
.......
.......
.......
endparagraph


textblock "AC_TEXTBLOCK_2" ......... "AC_PRG_2"


rot2 -symb_rotangle
pen 141
richtext2 xcoord, ycoord, "AC_TEXTBLOCK_2"
del 1

Hope this works.

Regards, Juha

Re: Little 2d Shear Symbol object

Anonymous — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 01:37:05 GMT

Hi Juha

Hopefully I got the basic idea of what you wrote.
My Shear Schd box does not disappear now.
All looks good until I try to rotate it.
The "box" rotates alright of course, but the text disappears, until I rotate the "box" back to upright.
I tried to look up the error message in the AC12GDL pdf (pages 155 and 174) but could not determine what it was asking me to do.
Is it something really simple at this point, or did I totally screeww it up?
Thanks for your help.
lec

Re: Little 2d Shear Symbol object

Anonymous — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 01:43:12 GMT

An attempt at attaching zip of word.doc of Shear Box script.

Re: Little 2d Shear Symbol object

Anonymous — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:01:16 GMT

Hi, lec.

lec1212 wrote:
The "box" rotates alright of course, but the text disappears, until I rotate the "box" back to upright.

The text does not disappear. He moves very far from the box.

lec1212 wrote:
Valery
Thanks for you reply also.
I tried to use your Richtext2 "between commands coordinate transformations" but guess I don't understand where or how to put it in, as it seems no matter what combinations I try, I get error messages.

Make the following way.

define style "AC_STYLE_1"   "Arial", 8'-1.2222", 0

paragraph	"AC_PRG_2" 1, 0'-0.0000", 0'-0.0000", 0'-0.0000", 3'-3.3701"
    pen        141
    set style "AC_STYLE_1"
               "3"
endparagraph

textblock	"AC_TEXTBLOCK_2" 16'-2.4444", 5, 0'-0.0000", 3'-3.3701", 3'-3.3701", 3'-3.3701", "AC_PRG_2"

pen 141

add2 721836'-10.1881", -180162'-8.2321"
mul2 1, 1-symb_mirrored
rot2 -symb_rotangle
	richtext2	0, 0, "AC_TEXTBLOCK_2"
del 3

Please note, I installed the coordinates of the text in "richtext2" to 0. And those coordinates that were there, set up "mul2" and "rot2".
But before you do this, you must re-draw a box with the text and create a library part. Why? Because the current version of the text has the wrong settings. They create problems which are difficult to manage.
The text should have a central anchor, centered alignment and have no wrapping.
I do not know what you are doing, but it looks like "Elevation-Section Marker" from the topic.
http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=6319

Could you tell me how you intend to use your object? With scalable or fixed size (size of print)? Then, I would be able to show vidio how to do it.

Re: Little 2d Shear Symbol object

Anonymous — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:36:52 GMT

Hi Valery
What I did was re-create the object with the text sitting right on top of Project Origin, anyway that's what I thought you meant to clean it up a bit.
I hope that is a cleaner AC generated object.
The scale stays at 1/4" (1/50)metric)? (never needs to change).
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by "wrapping".
Then I pasted your code in.
However still getting error message as you can see.
I'm sorry I'm such a novice at this, I'm probably missing the obvious.

This is not a elevation marker, just a almost "dumb" stamp except that the text in the Triangle needs to rotate right side up, but does not need to change.
The Text in the square box, I add in after placement, so it is not part of "sched box" and does NOT need to rotate.

You asked, so I hope this makes sense;
This "stamp"(triangle part) is to identify which Row in a Shear Schedule I'm referring to, and the length I add in to the square box part depending on where I place it and how long the Shear wall is.

The thick lines you see it pointing to are just visual representations of the
length that is called out in the Box part.
I'll try to attach the gsm in next post below,above.
Thanks for your help!
ps, And sorry for my poor Russian:-))
lec

Re: Little 2d Shear Symbol object

Anonymous — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:46:28 GMT

And here's the 2d.gsm

Re: Little 2d Shear Symbol object

Anonymous — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:57:53 GMT

And here's how I'm using it ,visually.
If the 1 (one) was upside down, then whoever's reviewing, would not know if the 9 was a 9 or a 6.
In the side ways usage probably not as big a deal, but still would like triangle number to be upright.
Hope that makes a least some sense.
And as you can see, for now my workaround was to make a special upside down Sched Box, (upper one).
lec

Re: Little 2d Shear Symbol object

Anonymous — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:48:14 GMT

Then I pasted your code in.
However still getting error message as you can see.
I'm sorry I'm such a novice at this, I'm probably missing the obvious.

Sorry, I forgot to fix the error. Of course, the style definition for "richtext2" will be as follows:
define style{2} "AC_STYLE_1" "Arial", 8'-1.2222", 0

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by "wrapping".

I made a screenshot for clarity.

I see that in the latest version, the object is of type "label". You have decided to complicate his task?
I realized that the rotation of the text, which is in the triangle, must be the same as the text of dimension. This is a little more code than simply return it to 0 degrees. No problem.
Later I'll be back

Re: Little 2d Shear Symbol object

Anonymous — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:45:46 GMT

Hi Lec,

I gave your label object a look and made some simplifications on your script. I think it will do the job.

Hope that helps.

Edit: Object update... see the last post.

Re: Little 2d Shear Symbol object

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:58:53 GMT

And here is the same symbol as a simple 2d object.

Edit: Object update... see the last post.

Re: Little 2d Shear Symbol object

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:09:50 GMT

Wow Braza, that is very generous of you!
And specially so since I messed up with my first posting of "label" object.
It works flawlessly.
What a joy, I'll be using it on all my structural plans from now on.
I will try to learn from it, however I wonder if this is the right path for me if such a seemingly simple 2d object caused me such consternation, but I will try in your honor!
Thanks again
Hope all goes well for you in your endeavors.
Be safe out there.
lec

Re: Little 2d Shear Symbol object

vfrontiers — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:20:20 GMT

Speaking of....

Did GS allow you to AUTOROTATE an ASSOCIATED LABEL with the SPRING LINE of ROOF?

GDL has been unable to accommodate this and I've been asking for 10 years or more.

Ugh.

Re: Little 2d Shear Symbol object

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:39:53 GMT

Lec,

You're welcome! A few years ago I was on your shoes... and without the help of guys like David Nicholson-Cole, Olivier Dentan, F.Beister, Andrew Watson and others I wouldn't be here spreading the message.

I guess now you are officially entering the second base of GDL learning: Leave the automatic script and start scripting from scratch. Welcome to the club!

Hi Duane,

I second you in this "paleolithic" wish.

AC13 brought us new global variables for roofs, namely:

ROOF_INSU_THICKNESS roof insulation skin thickness
ROOF_RIDGE roof ridges length
ROOF_VALLEY roof valleys length
ROOF_GABLE roof gables length
ROOF_HIP roof hips length
ROOF_EAVES roof eaves length
ROOF_PEAK roof peaks length
ROOF_SIDE_WALL roof side wall connection length
ROOF_END_WALL roof end wall connection length
ROOF_TRANSITION_DOME roof dome connection length
ROOF_TRANSITION_HOLLOW roof hollow connection length

Unfortunately no ROOF_REFERENCELINE_ORIENTATION.

I guess they just forgot this one, because ROOF_REFERENCELINE_ORIENTATION seems to be so simple in comparison with these new ones.

Perhaps on AC14.

edit: Typo

Re: Little 2d Shear Symbol object

Anonymous — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:05:10 GMT

Thank you Lec for your feedback on the label/symbol objects... Here are the updated versions.

HTH.

Re: Little 2d Shear Symbol object

Anonymous — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:43:48 GMT

Hi Braza
Thank you.
You are a guiding light of humble generosity.
lec

Re: Little 2d Shear Symbol object

Anonymous — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:29:33 GMT

You are welcome Lec

See you around.