topic Re: Why Dimentions are static in Int. Elevation? in Libraries & objects

Why Dimentions are static in Int. Elevation?

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 07:30:50 GMT

Do you know why all kinds of Dimentions are static in Int. Elevation?

Every time I move an element in plan I have to go t each InteriorElevation view, delete the old Dimentions and make new ones!

Re: Why Dimentions are static in Int. Elevation?

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:37:22 GMT

Hi Kliment, I tried this by dimensioning Walls and Windows in IE, then moving both windows and walls on the Floor Plan and the dimensions remained associative in the IE.
I think at the moment of dimensioning, if you have the square shaped little marker at the clicked point, that dimensioned point will not be associative. Is it possible that you dimensioned points that cannot be associative?

Re: Why Dimentions are static in Int. Elevation?

rocorona — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:06:56 GMT

I think you can get real associative dimensions, for objects, only using the 3D hotspots scripted in GDL. Although sometime ArchiCAD shows auto-generated hotspots that give the "round" sign while dimensioning, but are NOT associated.

And -if I'm correct- the quote is associated to the UnID value of the HotSpot, and this is one of the reasons for having them scripted with unique identifier.

Re: Why Dimentions are static in Int. Elevation?

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:54:01 GMT

I suppose the problem is in the 3D hotspot! I have scripted one of the middle hotspots, but it is an ordinary hotspot without ID. It appears in Int. Elevation but dimentions read it only as static.

I could not understand how to manage the editable hotspots with their unID, paramReference and flags. Please, can someone help me with these? The hotspot I scripted is:

hotspot 0,0,0

and I need it to show the vertical position of the object.

Re: Why Dimentions are static in Int. Elevation?

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:58:20 GMT

Here is the 3D script of the object:

Re: Why Dimentions are static in Int. Elevation?

rocorona — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:33:45 GMT

Simply, add (a comma and) a number after the tree parameters. That's all. I did a test with this very short script:

BLOCK a,b,zzyzx
HOTSPOT a*1/3, 0, zzyzx/2
HOTSPOT a*2/3, 0, zzyzx/2, 1000

and the image shows what I get when dimensioning.

If you have more than one HS in the SAME SCRIPT, use different numbers.

Re: Why Dimentions are static in Int. Elevation?

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:04:38 GMT

So, it was THAT easy!
Thank you, Roberto!

Re: Why Dimentions are static in Int. Elevation?

vistasp — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:43:32 GMT

Advanced hotspots confused the heck out of me at first but once I understood the basics I was a lot more comfortable.

When it comes to numbering them, it always better to declare a value and them increment them each time as in the 2D example below.


unID=1                                                ! always declare the first unID 
HOTSPOT2 0,   ver, unID, hor,	1+128  : unID=unID+1  ! base
HOTSPOT2 -1,  ver, unID, hor,	3      : unID=unID+1  ! ref
HOTSPOT2 hor, ver, unID, hor,	2      : unID=unID+1  ! move horizontally
HOTSPOT2 hor, 0,   unID, ver,	1+128  : unID=unID+1  ! base
HOTSPOT2 hor, -1,  unID, ver,	3      : unID=unID+1  ! ref
HOTSPOT2 hor, ver, unID, ver,	2      : unID=unID+1  ! move vertically

To get a good understanding of how they work, try (apart from the manual) selfgdl.com

http://www.selfgdl.com/3d_elemente/diverse/HOTSPOT/kompendium.php

http://www.selfgdl.com/2d_elemente/eingabe/HOTSPOT2/kompendium.php (The example object on this page taught me a LOT!)

Hope this isn't information overload! 😉

Re: Why Dimentions are static in Int. Elevation?

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:18:04 GMT

Thank you too, Vistasp!
Nice example! I'll have it mind!

Re: Why Dimentions are static in Int. Elevation?

Rod Jurich — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:12:24 GMT

vistasp wrote:
/.......
To get a good understanding of how they work, try (apart from the manual) selfgdl.com/.........

Vistasp, how did you translate from German?
Did you use a translator and if so what is the name of the software?
Or do you speak German too

Re: Why Dimentions are static in Int. Elevation?

vistasp — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:59:01 GMT

Rod wrote:
Vistasp, how did you translate from German?
Did you use a translator and if so what is the name of the software?
Or do you speak German too

Hi Rod,

Unfortunately I don't know German so I rely on the Foxlingo plugin for Firefox. I say unfortunately because there seems to be a huge amount of GDL content in German. My wife does know a bit of it (German, not GDL) but the CAD stuff really throws her.

Re: Why Dimentions are static in Int. Elevation?

ztaskai — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:33:15 GMT

vistasp wrote:
Unfortunately I don't know German...

We have something in English and Hungarian, too.

English: sections 3.5 and 3.6 of Technical Standards: http://www.graphisoft.com/ftp/techsupport/documentation/developer_docs/BasicLibraryDoc/12/LibDevGuide/TechnicalStandards.html#title35

Hungarian: stuff I teach at the university from: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dg4s9hvs_3g32zqzfs

I can change both if you have any additions.

Regards,
Zsolt

Re: Why Dimentions are static in Int. Elevation?

Rod Jurich — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:03:16 GMT

vistasp wrote:
/..... so I rely on the Foxlingo plugin for Firefox./.....

Cheers Vistasp, I'll d'load the plugin.

Just marvellous, many thanks Vistasp

Re: Why Dimentions are static in Int. Elevation?

vistasp — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:16:57 GMT

Thanks for the links, Zsolt. Is there an offline (PDF) version of the devguide available? One problem (that's been discussed on this forum before) is that the sources of information are so widespread, one often doesn't know where to look.

I'm struggling with the Hungarian page - Foxlingo failed spectacularly with it.

Re: Why Dimentions are static in Int. Elevation?

Anonymous — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:46:28 GMT

Here I post the result ov my work, which was why I started this thread! Thank you once again, guys! I would have given up wihthout your help!

Re: Why Dimentions are static in Int. Elevation?

ztaskai — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:15:45 GMT

vistasp wrote:
Thanks for the links, Zsolt. Is there an offline (PDF) version of the devguide available? One problem (that's been discussed on this forum before) is that the sources of information are so widespread, one often doesn't know where to look.

I'm struggling with the Hungarian page - Foxlingo failed spectacularly with it. 😞

You can download the whole Basic Library (macros, samples and documentation) as a small ZIP file from http://www.graphisoft.com/support/developer/downloads/

Unfortunately, this version is updated less often than the solo HTML files.

The Hungarian description is for a minority, I know. The ratio of Hungarian speakers is 1:425 in the world but I guess it is around 1:100 in the GDL developer community 😉

Cheers,
Zsolt

Re: Why Dimentions are static in Int. Elevation?

vistasp — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 03:35:32 GMT

Oops! I should have seen that. Thanks again Zsolt.