topic Missing windows components in Libraries & objects

Missing windows components

Anonymous — Wed, 24 May 2023 10:26:39 GMT

When I choose a H-V grid with 2 vertical divisions in for instance a side sash, the preview shows in the window selection settings, but not in the 3d window. Please see the attached pic. Using the latest A/cad build & libraries.

Re: Missing windows components

Barry Kelly — Fri, 17 May 2019 07:44:42 GMT

I am not seeing this.
Are you sure you have pressed OK after changing the window settings.

Barry.

Re: Missing windows components

Anonymous — Wed, 22 May 2019 08:46:57 GMT

Yes Barry, the setting window is for the properties of the selected window in the 3d window. The H-V grid is missing on one of the sashes, although shown on the preview.

Thank you.

Re: Missing windows components

Barry Kelly — Wed, 22 May 2019 08:57:26 GMT

I am not really sure why this is happening.
I don't actually use these windows so am not so familiar with their settings.

What happens if you add extra vertical or horizontal panels?
Do both the preview and selection change?
Or activate the 'Uniform Sashes' as they both seem the same any way.

Barry.

Re: Missing windows components

Anonymous — Wed, 22 May 2019 09:00:00 GMT

Also tried it in another project, with the exact same thing. I surrender.

Re: Missing windows components

Lingwisyer — Wed, 22 May 2019 09:11:54 GMT

Does it work with other window types?

Ling.

Re: Missing windows components

Anonymous — Wed, 22 May 2019 11:36:15 GMT

I checked all the std AC22 types of windows and none work with editable grids or h-v grids. All show in the preview but nowhere else.

Re: Missing windows components

Barry Kelly — Thu, 23 May 2019 01:15:36 GMT

It is a mystery to me I am afraid.
The 3D preview of the windows should be the same as the actual window in the model.

Does the same happen if you start from a brand new default Archicad template?

Barry.

Re: Missing windows components

Lingwisyer — Thu, 23 May 2019 01:51:21 GMT

Do not think this will be the case since the 3D preview is generated from the same script as the actual object itself, but, if you go to Open Object by Subtype, do you have the following object?

General GDL Element => Model Element => Macro => Sash

If not, you will want to reinstall your default AC library.

Ling.

Re: Missing windows components

Anonymous — Thu, 23 May 2019 06:22:43 GMT

Barry wrote:
It is a mystery to me I am afraid.
The 3D preview of the windows should be the same as the actual window in the model.

Does the same happen if you start from a brand new default Archicad template?

Barry.

Tried that also but still the same. Thank you anyways for all the suggestions. I will uninstall AC and reinstall over the weekend and see if that works.

Re: Missing windows components

Anonymous — Thu, 23 May 2019 06:24:14 GMT

Lingwisyer wrote:
Do not think this will be the case since the 3D preview is generated from the same script as the actual object itself, but, if you go to Open Object by Subtype, do you have the following object?

General GDL Element => Model Element => Macro => Sash

If not, you will want to reinstall your default AC library.

Ling.

Thank you Ling, I checked and version 36 of the sash is there, I will uninstall AC and reinstall over the weekend and see if that works. I will report back if that works.

Re: Missing windows components

Anonymous — Mon, 24 Jun 2019 08:48:22 GMT

So I found what was causing my windows to have missing components. It's a bit embarrassing really, but I hope this may help someone else. The MVO settings under Document, Model view, Model view options, was set to simplified instead of full. I have no idea how this got changed! Instantly showed everything correctly.

Thanks again for all the suggestions. Luckily I never got around to reinstalling.

Re: Missing windows components

Barry Kelly — Mon, 24 Jun 2019 09:07:34 GMT

Thanks for posting back.

So it seems that the 3D preview in the object settings does not follow the MVO settings.
This could be a little dangerous in my opinion.
I do not use the default Graphisoft Library so I do not have this 'simplified' option.

I just tested this and it is indeed the case.
Very confusing if you ask me.

Barry.

Re: Missing windows components

Palawat — Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:50:50 GMT

Maybe it's MVO.

Please check your "Model View Options" and make sure that the "3D and Section/Elevation" for window under "DETAIL LEVEL OF DOOR WINDOW..." is set to "Full".

Re: Missing windows components

Barry Kelly — Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:58:28 GMT

Palawat wrote:
Maybe it's MVO.

Please check your "Model View Options" and make sure that the "3D and Section/Elevation" for window under "DETAIL LEVEL OF DOOR WINDOW..." is set to "Full".

Yes, that is what Tiny discovered.

Barry.

Re: Missing windows components

Palawat — Mon, 24 Jun 2019 12:06:39 GMT

Ouch! Tiny's latest post didn't show up when I replied.