topic Re: No Sill No Trim in Libraries & objects

No Sill No Trim

Anonymous — Wed, 24 May 2023 09:58:47 GMT

On the "w sliding2 12" window, when turning off the outside sill I get an incomplete lower trim detail.
Just more screw ball 12 library parts issue?
Or is there a way around this?
This is on a CP wall that is "2x4 core with 1/2gyp and 3/4 stucco fills".
Only the "2x4" is selected as core.
I have the latest library and hot fix.
Bier

Re: No Sill No Trim

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:15:02 GMT

I have a slightly different problem (gaps) if I turn off the inside stool. I'm working with GS tech support to report this ... so anyone else seeing problems like this, please post in this thread.

Thanks,
Karl

Re: No Sill No Trim

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:06:05 GMT

Karl wrote:
I'm working with GS tech support to report this ... so anyone else is seeing problems like this, please post in this thread.

Hi Bier and Karl,

I'm experiencing some strange behavior with the 2D representation of casings in AC12. With ganging on both sides (left and right) and 2D Detail Level set to 1:50, the exterior lines of casing disappear. If the 2D Detail Level is set to 1:100 or 1:200, everything looks OK. In both situations, the floor plan display for the windows is set to <Symbolic>. If changing it to <Projected>, the casing displays fine. (I've attached a screen shot illustrating this issue)
Here are two links to some older threads in which I've described this problem along with another one concerning AC11 and the 3D appearance of casings.
http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=24430
http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=126903&highlight=ac12+casing#126903

Thank you in advance,
Adrian Tudoreanu

Re: No Sill No Trim__ W DOUBLE TROUBLE

Anonymous — Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:36:19 GMT

One more example of window trouble in 12.
W Double Hung 12
Also in the small pre-view window of the window dialog, it shows 2d line out from main body of window.
Bier

Re: No Sill No Trim

Anonymous — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:10:32 GMT

Hi Bier,

I posted the exact same problem some weeks ago and apparently its being worked on ....

My boss advised me to never use window trims and model them instead but this seems like a rather time consuming workaround.

Re: No Sill No Trim

Anonymous — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:30:46 GMT

Hi Arthur
OOpps
I missed that.
Let hope spring eternal for better library parts!
Bier

Re: No Sill No Trim__ W DOUBLE TROUBLE

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:49:32 GMT

Bier wrote:
One more example of window trouble in 12.
W Double Hung 12
Also in the small pre-view window of the window dialog, it shows 2d line out from main body of window.
Bier

Hi Bier,

Can you describe how to reproduce the bug in your double hung screenshot and text above? GS can't fix it unless they can reproduce it...

Thanks,
Karl

Re: No Sill No Trim

Jefferson — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 03:36:41 GMT

How about weird trim........had reservations about the new windows after skimming articles here, but new features enticed me to go for upgrade anyway. [just beginning the process of digesting the new version this week] Guess nothing's simple eh?

Any hints about what I've got set wrong, and please tell me it is me not the windows, you have my full attention! Knockin' off for the evening but I'll be back, probably with lots more questions...........

Re: No Sill No Trim

Erika Epstein — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 06:32:36 GMT

Hi Jeff,
I can't find a window in AC12 that the parameters match your screenshot. The first 3 under Casing are
Casing width Inside
Casing width Inside
Casing width Outside

there was an update for 12, have you installed it?[ build 2325]

Re: No Sill No Trim

Jefferson — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:00:20 GMT

Hi Erica -

triple-checked, everything is up to date.......window is out of standard AC12 library. Settings shown in successive screen shots below. I am at a total loss, and this is after a just a few days into this. Typically I have always presumed it's pilot error for starters. Not so sure this time. Pretty discouraging to think I might be shelling out money for an add-on for something that used to work, however limited just to get back to scratch.........

Re: No Sill No Trim

Jefferson — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:01:57 GMT

more settings

Re: No Sill No Trim

Jefferson — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:02:45 GMT

Re: No Sill No Trim

Erika Epstein — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:39:15 GMT

It's not you.
The door/windows are IMHO worse than ever in 12 US library. I don't know about INT versions. As your screen shots show, sill and stool are not scripted correctly.
-The sill thickness is taken out of the window height, not the RO increased.
-The stool does not sit correctly in relation to the other window elements. If you look with the apron off, the side casings extend below the bottom of the stool.
-The stool sits too high causing the gaps.
-If you turn the stool off, the apron shifts down the height of the exterior sill (couldn't find a cross-eyed emoticon)
Even with the updated library issued a couple of months ago, many of these doors and windows are too buggy to use. This is why they included the AC11 transition library. These parts won't take advantage of the new wall display options such as core only, but they tend to be in better usable condition.