topic Re: Is Roof Surfacer gone in AC12?? in Libraries & objects

Is Roof Surfacer gone in AC12??

Anonymous — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:57:49 GMT

Hi folks...

I'm in the process of switching our office over to R12 from R9. I did a search of the forum before asking this...

What happened to the roof surfacer??!!

We need that thing back! About 75% percent of our jobs have pan & barrel tile roofs, and we made extensive use of the 'Italian tiles' roof surfacer (which was close enough to look good on elevations and in sections).

Can we buy this somewhere? I'm not looking forward to writing code for that.

Thanks,

Dave Sanders

Re: Is Roof Surfacer gone in AC12??

Anonymous — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:17:04 GMT

It is a Goodie now - you have to download it separately! You should also not forget to download the corresponding Accessories Library !

Graphisoft is a funny character, don't you think so? 😉

Re: Is Roof Surfacer gone in AC12??

Anonymous — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:31:48 GMT

Kliment,

Ah!! Very good... Will do!

Thank You very much. 🙂

Re: Is Roof Surfacer gone in AC12??

Anonymous — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:54:59 GMT

Kliment,

Sorry to be a noob, but could you point me to a URL for the Goodies? I looked around the site and had no luck.

Thanks!

Re: Is Roof Surfacer gone in AC12??

__archiben — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:09:45 GMT

Dave wrote:
Sorry to be a noob, but could you point me to a URL for the Goodies? I looked around the site and had no luck.

there's no direct link from the website. use your Help>ArchiCAD xx Goodies menu from within archicad - it should open your browser and link directly to the goodies page...

~/archiben

Re: Is Roof Surfacer gone in AC12??

Anonymous — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:41:20 GMT

Archiben,

Thanks! Got it. Man...... An auspicious start on the forum for me, huh? I promise to de-noob ASAP!

Re: Is Roof Surfacer gone in AC12??

Ignacio Azpiazu — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 05:05:26 GMT

I wonder what the rationale for the Goodies approach is. If it is worth distributing, it is worth including in the installation and update packages. If it is not worth distributing, it is not worth distributing. Can't see the point of a Third Way in this one.

Re: Is Roof Surfacer gone in AC12??

__archiben — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:35:24 GMT

Ignacio wrote:
I wonder what the rationale for the Goodies approach is.
...
Can't see the point of a Third Way in this one.

i have a feeling it comes down to a matter of support: the goodies are (or used to be) unsupported features - they may be incomplete or not thoroughly tested so you use them at your own risk. i guess by hunting them down yourself you forgo the support that comes with the main bought package?

for what it's worth though, i totally agree with you!

~/archiben

Re: Is Roof Surfacer gone in AC12??

__archiben — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:38:11 GMT

from the bottom of the goodie page:

Goodies wrote:
GOODIE TOOLS ARE PROVIDED TO YOU 'AS IS', WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND. BY DOWNLOADING YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IN NO EVENT SHALL GRAPHISOFT AND/OR ITS RESPECTIVE SUPPLIERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, INDIRECT OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF INFORMATION AVAILABLE FROM THE SERVICES THESE TOOLS PROVIDE.

Re: Is Roof Surfacer gone in AC12??

Thomas Holm — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:47:54 GMT

~/archiben wrote:
from the bottom of the goodie page:

Goodies wrote:
GOODIE TOOLS ARE PROVIDED TO YOU 'AS IS', WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND. . . .

Just a humble question: For what damages does Graphisoft accept liabilties when you use Archicad without Goodies?

Re: Is Roof Surfacer gone in AC12??

__archiben — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:09:48 GMT

Thomas wrote:
For what damages does Graphisoft accept liabilties when you use Archicad without Goodies?

you know as well as i do that software developers never accept any liability whatsoever. i was talking mainly about support.

Re: Is Roof Surfacer gone in AC12??

Thomas Holm — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:00:46 GMT

~/archiben wrote:
Thomas wrote:
For what damages does Graphisoft accept liabilties when you use Archicad without Goodies?
you know as well as i do that software developers never accept any liability whatsoever. i was talking mainly about support.

Sorry, I should have guessed that, but the quoted paragraph doesn't mention support, only liabilities. I agree they take less responsibility for supporting the Goodies. Still, they're updating them for every new release of the main program. Some of them still have some needed functionality. The line is blurred.

Re: Is Roof Surfacer gone in AC12??

Barry Kelly — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:08:15 GMT

Thomas wrote:
Still, they're updating them for every new release of the main program.

And they automatically update with the hotfixes if you have them installed.