topic Re: Sliding Folding Doors in Libraries & objects

Sliding Folding Doors

Anonymous — Wed, 24 May 2023 08:59:11 GMT

Does anyone know how I can create a library part to look like the attached image? We are using sliding folding doors that either stack to one side or both sides. The closest object in AC12 is the Bi-Fold object, however we need the option to set the number of panes and on which side they stack etc. Can anyone help?

Re: Sliding Folding Doors

__archiben — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:34:37 GMT

cadimage's 'door and window builder' will give you far more flexibility with this, but still not able to show the doors closed and dashed-open at the same time.

check out:
http://www.cadimagetools.com/products/tools.aspx?id=1

HTH
~/archiben

Re: Sliding Folding Doors

Anonymous — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:17:28 GMT

Trinity,

If you don't have Cadimage and need to do this NOW (deadline), here's how I handle it:

Use an ordinary door object and set the panel specification to 'Empty'. Go ahead and set up the frame, trims, threshold, etc. to look like the product you're using (or close as possible). Write a GDL for the panels, and place them manually (or even construct and group them from standard AC tools). Since doors are usually expressed on the plan in the 'open' position, I put the panels on a layer that's normally turned off for the Floor Plan view, but on for the Elevation view and place the panels in the opening 'closed'. Create the plan-view leaves and motion indicators with 2D entities on a 2D plan layer.

Rationale for using the empty-panelled door is that it'll show up on your door schedule and / or show consistent symbology with other doors in your project.

I'm going to be working on a GDL for these myself, soon. Use 'em all the time, lately... particularly the 'Lotus Glastax' product.

Hope that helps.

Re: Sliding Folding Doors

Anonymous — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:54:50 GMT

Thanks for your response guys. I don't have cadimage, however we have been looking at it so maybe I'll try a demo or something. Dave thanks for your suggestion, I'll go with that for the time being.

Re: Sliding Folding Doors

JaredBanks — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:48:31 GMT

Has any one found a solution this other than 3rd party software (which I don't own and can't justify for this one thing)? I've got a 7 panel folding door in my current project. 3 panels fold to the left, 4 to the right (looking at it from the outside). My current solution is to use a window of the same size with 7 fixed panels. Then turn the 2D symbol off in plan and draw the panels with fills on the plan. It gives me what I need in elevation and plan, but doesn't make me happy.

My New Years resolution for 2010 will be to learn how to script with GDL, but that's like 11 months away.

Re: Sliding Folding Doors

Anonymous — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:19:22 GMT

JaredBanks wrote:
Has any one found a solution this other than 3rd party software (which I don't own and can't justify for this one thing)? .....

I can assure you if you buy Cadimage's Door and Window Builder you won't just use it for this "one thing" - you will use it for all doors and windows for the rest of your Archi-career.

Re: Sliding Folding Doors

JaredBanks — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:13:25 GMT

I knew I was going to get in trouble with that statement! Damn. Just out of curiosity, I buy CadImage's Door and Window Builder. Then what? Can only one user make stuff with it (at a time), but anyone can use those objects. Or do I essentially need one seat per key?

My general philosophy is that there's enough of regular archicad for my new users to learn before branching off into everything else... anyways, that's kind of a separate topic.

Re: Sliding Folding Doors

ztaskai — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:47:36 GMT

This kind of folding doors are a clear need. We see it too and agree that you should be able to model them without 3rd party objects.

I cannot make public promises like that but you may expect such an element in the AC13 library. We'd like to develop a basic door for this purpose.

Regards,
Zsolt

Re: Sliding Folding Doors

Anonymous — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:25:23 GMT

JaredBanks wrote:
I knew I was going to get in trouble with that statement! <b>[censored]</b>. Just out of curiosity, I buy CadImage's Door and Window Builder. Then what? Can only one user make stuff with it (at a time), but anyone can use those objects. Or do I essentially need one seat per key?

My general philosophy is that there's enough of regular archicad for my new users to learn before branching off into everything else... anyways, that's kind of a separate topic.

Pretty sure it's one license per Archicad seat. Check out their website http://www.cadimagetools.com/index.aspx

Re: Sliding Folding Doors

Gary Lawes — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:06:35 GMT

I have one that I have made, I am pretty certain it goes to 7 panels, if you want a copy I will check it out at the office in the morning.

Re: Sliding Folding Doors

Anonymous — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:51:40 GMT

ztaskai wrote:
This kind of folding doors are a clear need. We see it too and agree that you should be able to model them without 3rd party objects.

I cannot make public promises like that but you may expect such an element in the AC13 library. We'd like to develop a basic door for this purpose.

Hi Zsolt,

An offical GS 'Nanawall' type sliding door would be very useful. Lets hope we see it in AC13!

Also while on the subject on sliding doors, for the standard sliding doors like 'D3 Sliding 12', could you model the doors so the frames overlapped (like the lower picture below) on both plan and 3d? Maybe at least an option to specify the overlap distance. Currently it looks unrealistic and unlike the ones I've seen in the UK which all have some overlap. (How else do you keep the weather out? )

Many thanks!

Re: Sliding Folding Doors

vistasp — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:28:42 GMT

Peter wrote:
Currently it looks unrealistic and unlike the ones I've seen in the UK which all have some overlap.

Out here, if they're made of wood, they look like Peter's doors. If they're of aluminium, there's an interlocking mechanism that allows them to look like the default library part. I guess the overlap should be an option.

Re: Sliding Folding Doors

Gary Lawes — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:40:25 GMT

OK have just checked mine out.
Goes up to 8 panels with choice of door arrangements from 1-7, 2-6, 3-5 etc for each, shows door closed in 2D and dynamically controlled swing for open door, so that you can show it through a full sweep. I am rushing out to meeting now, but if anyone is interested let me know and I shall post it up.

Re: Sliding Folding Doors

vistasp — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:07:29 GMT

Gary wrote:
if anyone is interested let me know and I shall post it up.

Would be great to see it in the depository!

Re: Sliding Folding Doors

Gary Lawes — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:30:12 GMT

OK its in the suppository, it is not the tidiest of objects as it was created for my own use rather than for public consumption. It is limited (at the moment) to full glazed door panels only. Try it and let me know what you think. A bit of feedback may be the prompt needed to finish it off.

Re: Sliding Folding Doors

Anonymous — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:40:45 GMT

Gary wrote:
OK its in the suppository...

Oww, sounds painful!

By the way, where is it in the depository? I've had a look in the door and window sections, but I can't see it.

I'll try to remember to give you some feedback once I've had a play with it!

Re: Sliding Folding Doors

Gary Lawes — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:20:57 GMT

Sorry Peter,

I had failed to upload correctly, have just done it again. It is in "Doors". BTW where in Wiltshire are you? I am up at the north end between Malmesbury and Cirencester.

Re: Sliding Folding Doors

Anonymous — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:55:43 GMT

Hi Gary,

I'm about 20 miles from you, t'other side of Malmesbury!

The door looks great! I've haven't played with it much yet, but I will let you know any problems.

I did spot that the inside and outside material definition is mixed up on a few of the panels. Also the material parameters are currently hidden for the glass, door knob, cill etc (easily solved!). I will look at it further next week and report back.

Thanks for posting it!

Re: Sliding Folding Doors

Gary Lawes — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:41:35 GMT

Apologies to all for rather poor upload, in my haste I forgot to include all macro's, I have uploaded a revised version along with macro's

I shall be revising it soon to provide more door panel styles, let me know of any other mods needed and I shall try to incorporate them.

Re: Sliding Folding Doors

Stuart Smith — Tue, 13 Jul 2010 16:33:12 GMT

Gary, this is a great part, thanks for your effort.

Don't know if this is a feature or bug, but setting the 2D opening dimension also affects the 3D opening, and I can't figure out how to disentangle the two.

I'd like to be able to show the dotted open-door lines on the floor plan, while keeping the door closed in 3D.

I've got just enough GDL knowledge to be dangerous, and I've been trying to modify a copy of your part, but I seem to break it just by saving a copy.

Anyone have any ideas?