topic Re: different size sashes for W Sliding3 22 window in Libraries & objects

different size sashes for W Sliding3 22 window

Anonymous — Wed, 24 May 2023 10:26:50 GMT

How do you make the window W Sliding3 22 middle fixed sash be 2x the width of the outside sliding panes? I have never seen a window in real life where the two sliding sashes have to slide into the same space. Is there another sliding window that does it?

Re: different size sashes for W Sliding3 22 window

Lingwisyer — Tue, 05 Mar 2019 02:53:24 GMT

Shape... => Pane Configuration => Custom

Then just adjust your widths to desired?

Ling.

Re: different size sashes for W Sliding3 22 window

Anonymous — Tue, 05 Mar 2019 03:53:14 GMT

Where exactly in the "window selection settings" dialog is "shape"? I don't see it anywhere. I want correct sash sizes, not custom sizes for divided light panes inside the sash.

Re: different size sashes for W Sliding3 22 window

Barry Kelly — Tue, 05 Mar 2019 04:03:42 GMT

This is in metric units but you will get the idea.

Barry.

Re: different size sashes for W Sliding3 22 window

Anonymous — Tue, 05 Mar 2019 05:14:37 GMT

You definitely have a different library than me. 3-sash sliding window 22 is not in my library. Only W sliding3 22. That window does not have the shape setting. Why is it not in my library? Am I missing a library? I have version 5009 USA Full. The library is up to date.

Re: different size sashes for W Sliding3 22 window

Lingwisyer — Tue, 05 Mar 2019 06:08:41 GMT

Is there a different window library other than the "Wood Windows 22" one shown in your image?

Ling.

Re: different size sashes for W Sliding3 22 window

Barry Kelly — Tue, 05 Mar 2019 06:41:08 GMT

The USA library is different to the AUS library which is different to the INT library.
This is what we have in the AUS library.
We don't have a 'Wood Windows' section like you do.
I didn't realise they were quite so different.

I just had a quick look at the 21 USA library I have installed and I don't see this option there as you say.
Nor can I see a way of doing what you want.

Maybe someone else that uses the USA library will have a suggestion.

Barry.

Re: different size sashes for W Sliding3 22 window

Lingwisyer — Tue, 05 Mar 2019 06:56:57 GMT

Can you DL the window from BIMComponents? Or might the GS objects on there only be top level and not contain the required macros?

Ling.

Re: different size sashes for W Sliding3 22 window

Barry Kelly — Tue, 05 Mar 2019 07:06:58 GMT

Lingwisyer wrote:
Can you DL the window from BIMComponents? Or might the GS objects on there only be top level and not contain the required macros?

I was thinking this as well, but I see only a 3 sash window for version 19.
It would contain all of the macros and I assume it is the INT library version.

I didn't actually download it but if it is the INT version, I am not sure if it will play nice with the USA library.
Maybe all the macros and objects are completely separate so there may be no issues.
only one way to find out.

Also it is version 19 so not sure how that will go either.
That should still be OK I think.

I would have thought BIM Components would be up to date though.
Especially when it comes to standard Graphisoft library parts.

Barry.

Re: different size sashes for W Sliding3 22 window

Anonymous — Tue, 05 Mar 2019 13:13:49 GMT

The version 19 window works. The preview is deceptive. It looks like the middle sash is going to slide, but it doesn't.
It does beg the question though. Why was this removed from the newer library and replaced with a window that nobody could ever buy? This is far from the first time I have had to download older versions because the current library doesn't have what I need.

Re: different size sashes for W Sliding3 22 window

Lingwisyer — Wed, 06 Mar 2019 01:19:05 GMT

I would have assumed that there would have been common parts which each localisation adds onto though that does not appear to be so in this case. Are the base macros the same? So each localisation just have different top level macros that pick out the right bits? Or does each localisation re-write those base macros?

Ling.

Re: different size sashes for W Sliding3 22 window

Barry Kelly — Wed, 06 Mar 2019 01:32:36 GMT

I don't know for sure as I have never really looked into it.
But I believe that the USA doors and windows are completely (or greatly) different to the INT doors and windows.
That includes their macros.

That is why they can both be loaded at the same time without duplicates.
However they will have different options such as casings and the wrapping of reveal skins that may not suit alternate localisations.

I think the AUS doors and windows are much closer (if not the same) as the INT ones.
Again I don't really know as I don't use any of them - I have my own custom library which is completely different again.

There are many post here about why one localisation can't do what another one does.

Barry.

Re: different size sashes for W Sliding3 22 window

Anonymous — Wed, 06 Mar 2019 21:34:41 GMT

How does one get a copy of the other libraries to see if there is something useful in them?

Re: different size sashes for W Sliding3 22 window

Lingwisyer — Thu, 07 Mar 2019 01:13:12 GMT

You can download and install other versions that your licence allows you to. With an AUS licence we can download the AUS, US, UK and INT versions. I am not sure if you can download the individual libraries themselves...

Ling.

Re: different size sashes for W Sliding3 22 window

Barry Kelly — Thu, 07 Mar 2019 01:46:24 GMT

Lingwisyer wrote:
I am not sure if you can download the individual libraries themselves...

As far as I know you must download and install the different language versions.
Give the installation folder a new name so as not to affect your current working version.
Then you can copy out the library and uninstall the programs if you want.

Be prepared for problems such as duplicate objects if you load more than one GS library.
If you extract the LCF file to access individual objects, you will need to make sure you get all the correct CALLed macros as well.

The best way to get other objects is through BIM Components as this will include all necessary macros - but it seems that is not up to date any more.

Barry.

Re: different size sashes for W Sliding3 22 window

naomihansen — Wed, 26 Feb 2020 21:01:06 GMT

I found this thread because I was having the same issue (wanting to find a slider window with narrower operable sashes) and it sounds like the AC19 version would work for me. However, even though I see it listed under the Migration Libaries folder in my library manager, I can't use it or place it. I tried copying it to my embedded library and still can place it as a window object. What am I missing here?

Naomi

Re: different size sashes for W Sliding3 22 window

Barry Kelly — Thu, 27 Feb 2020 01:33:08 GMT

If you are looking for a version 19 window then you will need to get it from the version 19 library.
You will have to load the entire library or extract the LCF file.
If it is a window or door, remember there may be a lot of macros that you also need.
I am not sure if this will work nicely with a new library loaded as well (without migrating).

I am not100% sure how the GS migration libraries work, but the file in the migration libraries may not be a real objects, just a file that migrates one version to another (it swaps the GUID and set parameter values if needed).

Another place to look is in BIMComponents - simply search in the window settings dialogue and see what pops up in BIMComponents.

Barry.

Re: different size sashes for W Sliding3 22 window

naomihansen — Thu, 27 Feb 2020 18:32:00 GMT

I guess my understanding of the migration libraries was a little off. I thought it gave us access to older libraries within the software. I did find on on BIMComponents that works pretty well, but will dig into my archive to see if I have older versions of the libraries I can import. Thanks again for the great input.
Naomi

Re: different size sashes for W Sliding3 22 window

naomihansen — Thu, 27 Feb 2020 20:31:40 GMT

If any other USA users out there are reading this... I went through the trouble of downloading the AC19 install software, so that I could grab the library objects. The AC19 3-pane slider window does not allow to specify the width of the sliders, just like the AC23 version doesn't, so spare yourself the trouble.
The BIMComponent one comes with a full-blown model of a building. It serves my purpose for now, but has created duplicates in my library, between this new downloaded object and the migration library. Deleting the new library object does not help, so I'm just ignoring the duplicate warnings for now.
Naomi

Re: different size sashes for W Sliding3 22 window

Lingwisyer — Fri, 28 Feb 2020 03:02:50 GMT

naomihansen wrote:
downloading the AC19 install software

Would that be for the US or INT version? You would need to download the INT version. You can then extract the relevant window by placing it in the floor plan and archiving the file, embedding all placed objects. This should save the window and the required macros to the embedded library which can then be exported to the desired location.

Ling.