topic Re: Custom Corner Window in Libraries & objects

Custom Corner Window

Anonymous — Wed, 24 May 2023 10:43:05 GMT

I just created a custom window and want to use it as a corner window, but it doesn't rebuild on corner (leaves parts of walls). Is there something a noob like me can do about it?
I'm trying to make a corner window without a mullion on corner. If nothing worked I would just use empty corner window and walls/slabs as frame...
Thanks, Lubos
(Intel Mac, AC11)

Re: Custom Corner Window

Anonymous — Tue, 20 May 2008 14:38:45 GMT

Could you post an image that shows "but it doesn't rebuild on corner (leaves parts of walls)". This might be helpful.
Thanks,
Peter Devlin

Re: Custom Corner Window

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 20 May 2008 16:52:46 GMT

Also, did you use the subtype "Corner Window" for your new window?

Maybe this isn't necessary, but I thought so...

Karl

Re: Custom Corner Window

Anonymous — Tue, 20 May 2008 17:20:38 GMT

Peter, This is how it looks like with corner window function on.

Karl, yes, I did use the subtype "corner window", otherwise I wouldn't be able to select it from libraries in the dialog box.

Thanks, Lubos

Re: Custom Corner Window

Anonymous — Tue, 20 May 2008 17:44:22 GMT

Gents,
this is what I need to achieve. (at the moment done with slab/wall/empty corner window tools)
I thought, if I had a corner window with frame on top and in the bottom only, it would have no profile in the corner. I wanted to gang it with regular windows to side or a window with mullion to one side only (kind of C - frame)
It might be a dead end or it might just need some scripting which I know nothing about...

Re: Custom Corner Window

Anonymous — Tue, 20 May 2008 18:43:21 GMT

I am wondering, since you have made a top and bottom frame, trim,
and glass and saved these elements as a window, whether you could use
the window as a ordinary window not a corner window. Insert an
instance of the window in one wall, drag the edge to the corner, insert another instance mirrored in the other wall and drag to corner.
I have done this with empty windows and in 2D and 3D the corner
does not show. Very little editing of the 2D symbol is necessary.
Just a thought,
Peter Devlin

Re: Custom Corner Window

Anonymous — Tue, 20 May 2008 19:41:44 GMT

Lubos,

You can achieve what you need with a standard window 'fairly' easily, but it involves a bit of SEOing and a patch on plan. (Both of which are a bit nasty) You also can't automatically schedule the windows either as they are actually larger than they appear, but if you just need it to 'look' correct and still act like a window then try the following -

1. Create your window as usual. It can be a normal 4 sided window, although your 3 sided one should still work.

2. Place in the wall as a normal window, but stretch it so it goes outside of the wall (further out than you need) to make sure the unwanted frame is well out of the way. Set the ganging to turn off the thick line at the unwanted end.

3. Create a slab to act as your Operator (in blue on image), so it hits the wall at 45 degrees and extends to completely cover the extent of the window. Adjust in 3d to vertically cover the window completely. Put it on a layer that will be hidden for printing.

4. Use SEO to subtract the slab away from the WALL the window is in (not the window directly - It wont work!)

5. Rinse and repeat for the other half of the corner window all as before.

6. It may be worth grouping the SEO Operator to the wall so it doesn't get lost if the wall moves.

7. Create a patch to make it look lovely on plan. You may need to make it slightly larger then the SEOed area, as the thick lines tend to creep out from underneath which will look wrong. Feel free to add extra hotspots to help align it on plan.

Hope that may be of some help to you.

Image attached is the window after SEOing, and operators still visible.
The hidden operator is in blue. The patch is highlighted in green on plan and moved to one side for clarity.

Re: Custom Corner Window

Anonymous — Tue, 20 May 2008 19:43:33 GMT

Here is the finished article perfectly mitred in 2d and 3d.

Cheers,

Pete.

Re: Custom Corner Window

Mats_Knutsson — Tue, 20 May 2008 20:35:58 GMT

Peter wrote:
Here is the finished article perfectly mitred in 2d and 3d.

Cheers,

Pete.

Great tips Peter! Does a string of silicone fix this in reality??
/Mats

Re: Custom Corner Window

Anonymous — Tue, 20 May 2008 20:58:39 GMT

Mats_Knutsson wrote:
Does a string of silicone fix this in reality??

Tell me about it! In my limited experience they are a nightmare to keep sealed in 'real' life. We've had three fail very quickly from two different manufactures. A kindly chap on site decided to empty the contents of a silicone gun (literally the whole contents!) down one joint to try and 'fix' it. You can guess how neat this looked!

Has anyone actually used them and they have worked first time? Feel free to recommend any manufacturers!

Oh btw lubos, nice design! Can we see a larger picture of it when it's all finished?

Re: Custom Corner Window

Anonymous — Thu, 22 May 2008 19:10:51 GMT

Hello Lubos,
How did you finally work out making your Custom Corner Window ?
The reason I ask is I made two corner windows. One was autoscripted
from AC tool elements (all roofs so I could have the miter at one side).
Dragging two instances one in each wall to the corner worked well.
The other is a parametric window I wrote by basically editing an
existing window I had written years ago. The editing was simply
doing in GDL what Peter Clark did with an SEO on a normal window.
This window worked even better.

I have not used the AC corner window because as far as I can tell
it always leaves a corner post. I am assuming you made your
"Custom Corner Window" to get around this issue. Several people
on this forum have resorted to the "Empty Corner Window and slabs"
method to get around this problem so it seemed worth while to
make a window library part that modeled a corner window without
a corner post.
Thanks,
Peter Devlin

Re: Custom Corner Window

LiHigh — Fri, 23 May 2008 14:59:56 GMT

The trick is to do an oversize on the connecting corner.
Empty windows are basically WALLHOLE...

Re: Custom Corner Window

Anonymous — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:14:22 GMT

The design is just coming up. See the link below:

http://carnegievillagecam.leedsmet.ac.uk/view/index.shtml

As I supposed, there is a mullion on corner. At least I learned something. Thanks one more time.