topic Re: Panel door holes for panels not showing in Libraries & objects

Panel door holes for panels not showing

Erika Epstein — Wed, 24 May 2023 09:00:29 GMT

Hi,
I am writing a script for a multi-panel door. The number of panels can vary. I am able to get all the panels to show up correctly with a FOR NEXT routine, but when I apply this kind of routine to the door panel itself, the holes for the panels are filled in.

This is the script for the door panel
FOR k=1 TO pnlqt !STEP 1
cprism_ intfinmat, extfinmat, sidefinmat,
10, drthk,
-0.5*drwd, 0'-0.0000", 15,
-0.5*drwd, drht, 15,
0.5*drwd, drht, 15,
0.5*drwd, 0'-0.0000", 15,
-0.5*drwd, 0'-0.0000", -1,
-0.5*pwd, brail+(k-1)*irail+(k-1)*pht, 15,
-0.5*pwd, brail+(k-1)*irail+k*pht, 15,
0.5*pwd, brail+(k-1)*irail+k*pht, 15,
0.5*pwd, brail+(k-1)*irail+(k-1)*pht, 15,
-0.5*pwd, brail+(k-1)*irail+(k-1)*pht, -1
NEXT k
brail,srail, trail and irail are the bottom, side, top and intermediate rails

Can someone help with why the holes don't appear as holes? You can see the pen outlining them.

Thanks,
Erika

Re: Panel door holes for panels not showing

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:02:19 GMT

Hi Erika,

If I well remember, in the cprism (or any prism) the first and the last node of a hole have to be identical.
Hope it helps.

Re: Panel door holes for panels not showing

Erika Epstein — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:41:37 GMT

The first and last lines of the hole are identical, unless I can't see the trees for the forest.

Re: Panel door holes for panels not showing

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:52:29 GMT

In your first post the first line/node of the hole is "-0.5*drwd, 0'-0.0000", -1,"
...and the last is "-0.5*pwd, brail+(k-1)*irail+(k-1)*pht, -1"
My suggestion is: add another line/node in the end of the hole with the following "-0.5*drwd, 0'-0.0000", -1"

Re: Panel door holes for panels not showing

Erika Epstein — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:18:11 GMT

Braza,
The first line of the HOLE is:
-0.5*pwd, brail+(k-1)*irail+(k-1)*pht, 15,
and so is the last one:
-0.5*pwd, brail+(k-1)*irail+(k-1)*pht, 15,

The first line you noted is the first line of the overall DOOR panel.

Erika

Re: Panel door holes for panels not showing

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:15:41 GMT

Sorry Erika... My GDL is a little bit rusty
It seems like there are two coincident prisms...
One with the holes and another one without holes...
Check if there is any junk code in the script... Just a hint.

Re: Panel door holes for panels not showing

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:50:32 GMT

Erika,

The loop syntax is incorrect.
With some adjustments, you can try this (for example)

yHole = (B - yWid * (nHole + 1)) / nHole
ySpace = yWid + yHole

put -A/2, 0, 15,
-A/2, B, 15,
A/2, B, 15,
A/2, 0, 15,
-A/2, 0, -1

for k = 0 to nHole-1
put -A/2 + xWid, k * ySpace + yWid , 15,
-A/2 + xWid, k * ySpace + yWid + yHole, 15,
A/2 - xWid, k * ySpace + yWid + yHole, 15,
A/2 - xWid, k * ySpace + yWid , 15,
-A/2 + xWid, k * ySpace + yWid , -1
next k

cprism_ mat, mat, mat, nsp/3, height, get(nsp)

Re: Panel door holes for panels not showing

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:20:13 GMT

Hello Olivier,
Would you agree that the problem with Erika's code is
that with each iteration of the loop the door panel is
drawn again with one hole in different position so the
holes are filled in with the other panels ? The fix is indeed
the code you suggest which draws only one door panel
then "puts" the holes into it.
Alternatively, Erika could draw one door panel and use
a for/next loop to make the holes with a cutpolya command.
Thanks,
Peter

Re: Panel door holes for panels not showing

Erika Epstein — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:00:33 GMT

Paolo,
My meager gdl is even rustier than yours! And I did try your added line just in case.
I had made this door with slabs and custom profiles for trim around both sides of each panel. The result was an autoscripted 64 pages of code with more advanced terms than I'd ever seen in an autoscripted part before nevermind having used them. I figured this was my wake-up call to improve my skills.

Olivier & Peter, I am now studying PUT and GET and CUTPOLY terminolgy and your script. Peter you're right about what I did oh-so neatly fill in all the holes I had cut
Thank you for the help

Erika

Re: Panel door holes for panels not showing

Anonymous — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:40:06 GMT

Hello Erika,
I am curious why you are not using "A" and "B" for the
width and height of your door panel. Using "A" and "B"
will make the info pallet display the door size correctly.
Peter Devlin

Re: Panel door holes for panels not showing

Erika Epstein — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:54:30 GMT

Well, I was thinking I might want to add a transom and sidelights and would need those dimensions separate from A & B.
These doors are for an historical, (for California, c.1902) house being converted into a restaurant. The standard for the doors are 5 panel with many upper glass-panel variations. Some also have transoms, mostly rectangular, and one has sidelights.
My thinking was at some point A and B would not always be just the door height or width. As I write this, I realize how silly this must sound. The transom and sidelight can also be called as custom transom and custom sidelight units.
Sigh.

The short answer is poor programming skills.

Re: Panel door holes for panels not showing

Anonymous — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 03:12:30 GMT

Hello Erika,
Not necessarily poor programing skills.
If you are planing to use "A" and "B" as
an outside frame size for a mulled unit
composed of a door and frame, transom
and frame, and sidelight panels and frames,
then this would be logical.
Tell me is it still possible in LA to have doors
and windows made by local door and window
makers that are historically accurate or have
code requirements for infiltration and heat
loss become so stringent that national makers
that can demonstrate compliance the only way
to go now ?
Thanks,
Peter Devlin

Re: Panel door holes for panels not showing

Anonymous — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:31:49 GMT

Erika,
Sometime ago I scripted a door like yours and I realise that to make a "realistic door" (specially in a historical project) you have to make each part separately.
If you build it with one prism you will get only one direction for the door face texture, and I personally don't accept this for a realistic element.
It's because the direction of the wood veins texture is not the same for each part of the door.
So I decided to built it only with PRISM_ and VERT definitions.
It's more simple and more realistic.

Re: Panel door holes for panels not showing

Erika Epstein — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:24:33 GMT

Peter,
Regarding historical accuracy v. current codes: Always a fine line. Historical restoration allows for some wiggle room to balance the cost implication v. current codes v. accuracy. The existing building is actually in very good condition so restoration including doors, windows and other woodwork will be relatively easy and we will keep the original doors and windows. The addition must match the style(s) of what was built in that historical district at that time will be to current code.

Paulo,
Good point! Fortunately for me, photos from when it was built show all woodwork painted and we will be continuing with that aesthetic. In the historic district the project is located in we must restore to that time. Some of the interior woodwork, like the stair railings which were not painted, are another story.

Re: Panel door holes for panels not showing

Erika Epstein — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:23:57 GMT

Olivier & Peter,
I just completed my 5-panel door successfully!
Autoscripted it was 64+ pages(335KB).
The written version is just over 2 pages (13KB)and is fully parametric.
Thank you both very much.

Next I'll try changing it to separate rails and stiles per Paolo's comments.

Re: Panel door holes for panels not showing

Anonymous — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:30:58 GMT

Hello Erika,
Congratulations !
To bad I can't magnify your image
because I thought you wanted
panel molds around the raised
recessed panels. Do you have
panel molds ?
Peter Devlin

Re: Panel door holes for panels not showing

Erika Epstein — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:41:11 GMT

Yes,
They are sprisms for now. I'm waiting for the measurements of the actual ones, so I can extrude or bend(?) around the opening.Both sides of the door.

I also need to:
-add in also a scale dependent resol so that at 1/4"the linework doesn't turn into a blob.

-add in the single pane glass panels. Some are 2panels +intermediate rails high, others are 3pnls + int. rails high, etc...

I am enjoying this tremendously.